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You will need to support your accusations with actual quotes and then make your case (as I have done). These baseless accusations serve only to inflame and could be interpreted as combative. This isn't meant to be personal. We all can fall into using fallacies and it is well within anyone's...

Winman, I don't want to start a debate on this point, but Paul CLEARLY teaches that God bound men over to their sin, the difference is that we also agree with Paul that God did this for a redemptive purpose, not a condemning one. "For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may...

Winman, I could send you dozens of links of those calling themselves Baptist who believe all kinds of weird things, which is why the Forum provides a Statement of Faith... I'm sorry if you disagree with this but it is the standard this particular forum has adopted so if you would like to...

If they have an internal inability to believe then they have a perfect excuse for not believing, and Paul says they don't have any such excuses (Rom. 1). The internal will must be convinced or persuaded, yes, but don't you think the gospel truth is powerful enough to accomplish the purpose...

Winman, your view is not consistent with Baptist doctrine and though I'm sure you have good reasons for holding to it you will need to make that case in the non-Baptist forums. Thanks

Once again you prove not to know what I believe about the text thus revealing you have yet to fully vet the position which you have already deemed false. May I encourage you to objectively study the view that I and other notable scholars (AW Tozer, Hershel Hobbs, EY Mullins, CS Lewis, etc)...

Yes. The gospel is the means God sends to draw/invite/appeal men to come to Christ. Now, those external means can and do have an inward effect..."faith comes by hearing.".."how can they believe in whom they have not heard." External means (gospel, envy, signs, big fish) are often employed...

No, actually I'm accepting your definition of death, which is the 'total inability to respond to God's appeal to be reconciled' and asking you "WHO, if not God, decided that 'inability' (your definition of spiritual death) would be the result of sin." You refuse to give the obvious answer... I...

We all agree. This is like saying, "My son was free to obey or disobey my command to clean his room," but it doesn't tell us why you chose to beat him black and blue for disobeying. But who, if not God, decided that 'a loss of spiritual ability' would be the result of man's sin? That is the...

It can be difficult to pick out the question begging fallacy, but in its most basic form it's like saying, "You are wrong because I am right." Or in this case, "Your illustration doesn't match the text, because what I believe about the text is right." However, what you believe about the text...

How so? Question begging is when one presumes the very point up for debate and since I've only offered another perspective/interpretation of the text in question I can't see how I've begged the question? Can you demonstrate how I have committed this fallacy? Exactly. And now people understand...

Your objection to the illustration is all rooted on the basis of your presumptions about the text in question...that is the fallacy called 'question begging.' The analogy is not meant to represent YOUR perspective of this passage, but ours, thus to attack it on the basis of your presumptions...

Well, that is because men are held responsible for what they know...for what has been clearly revealed to them. How can they believe in one who they have not heard? But once they have heard they are held responsible...why? Because they are response-abled. They are able to respond to any...

Again, I'm not seeing the answer. Forgive me and bare with me as I'm trying. My child may be responsible and have 'free will' for the decision to obey my command to clean his room, but I'm responsible for for the choice of punishment. If I beat him black and blue I go to jail, but if I ground...

I don't think this addressed my question. I asked who, if not God, decided the result of man's free will choice to sin? Who decided that all mankind would be born totally unable to respond to God's appeal to be reconciled?

This deserves a post of its own. 1. What do you mean by 'still held accountable for keeping those commandments?' Aren't those under grace forgiven even if they fail to keep those commandments? What are you suggesting that God is going to do to Christians who fail to keep these commandments...

I think you misunderstand my view. People are condemned for unbelief for what ever level of revelation they refuse to believe (not just the gospel). Romans 1 addresses this. People who refuse to acknowledge God are without excuse because what can be known of God has been clearly revealed...

Compared to: "No one can join the Army unless a Army recruiter has recruited him, and the Army will train him to fight to his greatest potential." Compared to: 1. Recruiting is the cause of joining (not an irresistible cause) 2. Joining is the cause for being trained. Notice the...

Yes, but were they entrusted to Christ? Jn. 2:23 Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Feast, many people saw the miraculous signs he was doing and believed in his name. 24 But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all men. 25 He did not need man's testimony about man...

Funny how its the only one that distinguishes those in Hell from those in heaven, don't you think? Murders will be in both locations, adulterers will be in both..etc...unbelievers will only be in one. Why are they condemned, you ask? John 3:18 says "Whoever believes in him is not...