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I was thinking of the children of the pastor. They are not saved, they are not close to their dad. Some preachers kids after they are grown want to get as far from church as possible. The children were close to their mother. If it were me I would not want to drive a deeper wedge between my lost...

Evan do as you please, I know you will anyway.

You could say that but a pastor of a church is not a private person but to some extent a roll model.

I know we live in a fast age and what we used to do to show respect to others and for others are looked upon as out of date. Now to the question. A 65 year old pastor lost his wife to cancer seven months ago. They had been married since they were in their teens, it was a good marriage with two...

Sir, by reading between the lines it sounds like you have been entertaining this thought for some time. I don't think there is a definite answer to your question. King Saul was probably not saved to start with and Samson was under different circumstances than a person that committed the act...

a Lot of the Baptist bride churches practice foot washing and consider it an ordinance. I have noticed at the foot washing communion service there is more said on foot washing than the cup and bread. The ones I know take communion, foot washing once a year in the month of May. After the...

Act's 13:47-48 For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth. 48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: AND AS MANY AS WERE ORDAINED TO...

St. John 17: 1-2 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. Rev. the...

You made a statement, you need to back it up.

Matt 13:10-11 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? 11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. St. John 12:39-40 But though he had done so many...

For some reason the threads won't pull up again for me. You will have to copy and paste it.

All I got from this is a bunch of thread topics. Can you find a statement from a 5 pointer to back up your first statement ?

No one on this board believes that. I certainly don't believe because a man is lost at the moment he is non-elect.

You believe in order to make the blood effectual, fallen man has to believe, or in other words when Christ said it was finished upon the cross it was not really finished until man say's it's finished by believing. :tonofbricks:

Posted by Van {Next we get the claim that all men that seek the Lord, do so with all their heart, but Matthew 13 refutes that claim.} Read it again. The all men I was referring to was, all of the elect. Also I was talking about real seekers that seek God with all of their heart.

Rev 1:5 He hath washed us from our sins in his own blood, Act's 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. These scripture and many more like them...

All you are trying to do is provoke me to anger with all your if you are a real man, Man-up or shut up stupid talk. It won't work.

I was not the one that posted the scripture as if I kept these commandments or expected other people too.

So if you don't, why did you bother to put the scriptures up ? Was it just to rebuff what I had put up ?