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    I agree that Paul was referring to Gentiles of His day in Romans 2. But there was unwritten law before the Jews. For example, Abraham said " if fifty righteous people are found (in Sodom)...". Joseph told Potiiphars wife, " how could I do this great evil, and sin against God". Etc I am not...
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    Yes, sin causes physical death, in infants and others who are incapable of knowing right from wrong, due to them being in Adam, but nowhere does the Bible say God imputes sin to them in the sense of eternal punishment. But the people who lived before the Mosaic Law did have a law. The Law of...
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    One of the purposes of the Law, besides the purpose of preserving Israel as a distinct nation, is to show people they need a Saviour. The Law acts as a catalyst, causing sin to increase and also causing sin to become exceedingly sinful The Law is the diagnosis of sin. The Gospel is the cure...
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    These points are not being disputed. Gods grace is for those who are lost in Adam so that they may be saved in Christ. So your response does not refute what I'm saying
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    Re. Post 40. How do you explain the fact that if Sodom had seen His miracles it would have repented and still been standing. They were exceedingly wicked, but the people Jesus was talking to were more hardened to the Gospel than Sodom would have been. Why do you suppose?
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    I'm talking about their hardness to or receptivity to the Gospel. Would both groups be the same?
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    But what made them But was the increasing hardness because of Adam or because of their own doings? Were they born hardened or did they become hardened? Don't get me wrong. God can save anyone, no matter how hard. But sometimes hardness is a judgement because of what you did, not what someone...
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    What is the biblical definition of spiritual death? From what I read, it is relational seperation from God that results in dead works and sin. Are you denying that there are degrees of hardness and receptivity in sinners? Go to a place where they have never heard the Gospel and compare it to...
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    Yes. Was this hardness caused by Adam Yes. Was this hardness caused by Adam and the Fallor was it the result of something else in addition? ,
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    Jesus said Sodom would have repented if they had seen His miracles. So what does that tell you human inability. It tells me that God's grace trumps human inability except when certain degrees of hardness is added to natural inability And the degree of hardness is not Adams blame. Ok...
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    Is Adam to blame for Pharoah's hardness or is Pharoah. Let's not make excuses for Pharoah. Remember, Jesus said that if Sodom and Gomorrah had seen His miracles, they would have repented. Why are some more hardened than others, being all children of Adam? Hardening caused by THEIR own actions...
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    I guess there is only one question left, at least that I can think of. If the Gospel call goes out to all, and powerful grace is extended to all,why doesn't everyone come? Listen to what the scripture says. So then God mercies whom He will and whom He will He hardens... What does this...
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    It is certain in the mind of God who foreknows all things, but it is contingent in time, for He said unless you repent, you will likewise perish and these things I say to you that you might believe. It is against our fallen nature to trust and love Jesus. But what is impossible with man is...
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    Yes. That doesn't answer my question though.
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    Is a reprobate doing God's will by rejecting Jesus and perishing?
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    Thank you for the link. I have tremendous respect for Mr. Sproul. But Ultimacy doesn't mean two things happen in exactly the same manner. Equal Ultimacy ( if we correctly define ultimacy) means that that outcomes are equally certain, which you believe. I always wonder why some Calvinists claim...
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    So to be a goat means you are still lost in your sins. Are they lost in their sins because of their will or because of God's will?
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    Are you saying they were predestined to damnation according to the foreknowledge of God? So you hold to double predestination. Well at least youre a consistent Calvinist, believing that God damns people before they do anything. That is a consistent Calvinist interpretation of Romans 9. I have...
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    And who Who are the sheep and who are the goats? Please provide scripture for your answer. And again, on what basis does God condemn sinners?
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