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Icon's reference puts it succinctly here: YUP...it's crap. The "seeker-friendly" or "seeker-sensitive" (as they say here in Florida) is garboggio.

Seriously....My first intro to a "seeker-sensitive" church (and they identified themselves as such, so, their words not mine)...was a dyed-in-the-wool 5-point Presbyterian Church......Where was I to begin?? :tongue3: I tried to explain to them that there was no such being as a "seeker"...but...

Correct....but, the opposition refuses to address the context: Instead they will insist on debating the term "use the office of"...who cares? They will not reasonably address your argument about what the Scriptures clearly teach are the list of qualifications...instead they will merely call...

Don't get confused about the terminology...it means little or nothing: The term "seeker friendly" or, as I always hear it: "Seeker-sensitive" essentially only means churches who try to create an atmosphere which they would consider to be comfortable and non-confrontational to the lost or...

Fact:.....change "use the office of" to...."I am Mickey Mouse"...or "Michael Eisner is the anti-Christ" and it won't change the context one iota... Fact:....the people who "use the office of" or who "are Mickey Mouse" or who "hate misogynistic jerks who despise the equality of women" OR>>>>...

No: 1.) Assuming (unwarrantedly) that this was a "purposeful" "error" might kill conversation. Transliteration may or may not have been the best of ideas, but it does not necessarily imply that there was any intent to obfuscate or confuse or promote a certain bias. 2.) Even if everything...

:thumbs::thumbs: said perfectly:jesus: I bolded your last: I know it rings true for me and my beloved bride. Thing is, it is her status as being wiser, gifted, and more godly than I that she WOULD NOT want or desire to disobey God's word. Debating the Scriptural validity of an official...

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs: This simple truth bears repeating:

1.) The Primary example provided in Acts was for Men to be chosen, not women. If we are to base the ministry of the deacon on the initial example provided, all deacons would be men. To randomly decide to do things contrary to the Apostolic example is unwise. 2.) If a church insists that...

AIC....God is always logical. If you are coming from a proper definition of logic that is not difficult to believe. This has been explained, but perhaps not sufficiently for some yet. Only if you are mistaken about what logic is and isn't would you insist that God does illogical things.

No doubt many dispy's have gone off of the deep end on those issues, and abused the ideas. I do not know Hagee well enough to know whether he has done that or not, so perhaps he has. From what little I can see, he at least does talk about those types of things an AWFUL lot, and maybe too much...

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Ok....so, thanks for your "charity" then, as I said...:wavey:

Ummm.... thanks for your "Charity" as you credited yourself with I guess. :thumbs:

My take....it's decidedly worth listening to. Hagee is likely mistaken on some things. Dispensationalists have the courage to take what the Scriptures teach about things and at least attempt to make sense of them which is always subjected to withering criticism.... I wish I were an A-mil or...