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That isn't cute......... I had a very serious drinking problem. God has graciously been delivering me from it. I am praising God for what he is doing for me. How DARE you........ Your post, may have been designed to be "cutesy".....but, it was sick..... That is sick. I have...

Herald.......This thread, I think, will, by default, prove the notion that there should be peaceable dis-association. Committed Calvinists WILL NOT agree with the likes of myself, and others who believe in LFW. Similarly, those who are committed to LFW...simply WILL NOT agree with those...

Yes...I can dig God's status as "Grand Master Flash"......it's a pretty good analogy....Of course, EVERY analogy will ultimately break-down...but, for these purposes, it works just fine. God can be "Grand Master Flash" for now. I hear you.........and I also just don't like it. Molinists...

I tend to agree with the notion of peaceable dis-association.......I harbour no "ill-will" towards my Calvinist brethren, and I know we shall see one another in glory.......But I cannot abide the differences in Theology. I assume, they also cannot abide my difference with them. IT WOULD...

Your concern is noted and quite legitimate WITBOTL.......but, there is no reason to fear the "deism" you are detecting here. One of the critical notions involved in a Molinistic explanations is the assumption that God is equally as active and involved in his creation as he is in any other...

Since...........Most Baptists couldn't give a fig about what a bunch of Presbyterians say..........I doubt it would work. I've read the "confession" before.....and many others. I don't care for most of them. Even the London Baptist Confession smacks of Creedalism to me.....It'll be a hard row...

Seems pretty close HT.......I would, however imagine (personally) that even though the "YOU" might be "better" in some other world....I think it also likely, that there is no other world wherein those who are Damned in this one, might have been redeemed in another.... I think any Molinist...

Icon: NO.........Please quote where I said that or detract your lie.....I said that Brooke Foss Westcott and Fenton John Anthony Hort were "little more" than Satan worshippers.............that is what I said. Retract your false accusation. I have said nothing about what any "Greek...

This is cute.......... Is it just me, or are Calvinists appealing to the Wesley's to support their Philosophy. Just enjoy the hymn.....and move along.......It's a HYMN people...a HYMN!!!

I knew what he was quoting when he posted it..........as I am sure you did as well. Even if you take it from Young's perspective........Icon still doesn't realize that it DOESN'T SAY what HE THINKS it says.......but, he only appeals to it because he THINKS it states what he already assumes it...

Item 1: Westcott and Hort were little more than Satan worshippers.....but, don't worry your little head about that for now.... Item 2: Young's is fine, but not flawless.......however, you are using Young's in order to literally re-write what the obvious intent as translated into plain...

Not at all sir......not at all...:thumbsup: Heck, If the oponent can literally re-write John 3:16 to their liking..........Why Not?

LOL!!!!!!! I JUST READ this...But, it's also SO TRUE!!! Calvinists must either maintain that God saves those who simply do not exist......... OR....... They MUST maintain that God is forced to rely on SOMETHING about an individual man in order to save him..... Even if it is the fact of...

O.K...........You do.......know who John Hendryx is, don't you??? Are you quoting him as a scholasitic and dis-engaged intellect on this topic? JOHN HENDRYX...... I repeat....JOHN HENDRYX Are you quoting "John Hendryx" to me? John Hendryx.......The vaguely creepy...

King James Bible: Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Icon: Actually it does not,lol 16 for God did so love the world, that His Son -- the only begotten -- He gave, that...

The part I bolded is absolutely, and unequivocally False about Classical Arminian Theology........... NO ARMINIAN believes what I bolded...and yet, they are, in fact "synergists".... Your further explanation of what "Monergism" is.........which I quote here: Is ABSOLUTELY and...

Very Well!! :flower::wavey: Blessings to you:thumbsup:

First.....I wanted to re-iterrate to you that I meant no dis-respect or insult to you personally, when I objected (on the previous thread) about the term "DoG".......That wasn't personal.....:flower: It's just the term I object to. You are correct that "Semi-Pelagian" and "Arminian" or even...

Mont: NOTHING about either John nor Charles Wesley was "MALICIOUS"........Never.... Granted, they were not Calvinists, and this poem is hard-hitting about what Charles obviously views to be the logical ends of Calvinist teaching, but, they are aware of Calvinist dogma, and they are NEVER...