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    Nuts For Arminians To Crack

    Nope. Arminius believed nothing of the sort. Neither do Wesleyans, Free Methodists, General Baptists, Free Will Baptists, Holiness, Calvary Chapel, Nazarenes, etc... hold to that as a doctrinal distinctive. I know. I've belonged to three of those groups above, and Majored in theology at an...
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    Nuts For Arminians To Crack

    I do not believe salvation is merely making a choice to accept Jesus. That is a horrible oversimplification of what Arminians believe. SOME people may believe that way, but that is not what the Arminians I've known, heard and read believe. That kind of statement (that salvation is merely a...
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    Nuts For Arminians To Crack

    My earlier post already answered this. The answer is no. No one can come unless the Father draws them. Non Calvinists believe this too.
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    Nuts For Arminians To Crack

    Whose grace? God's Whose faith? Faith is a gift of God, but when it is received it becomes my faith and your faith. Jesus never said "God's faith has made you whole". So it is our faith that we receive (through revelation, illumination, and drawing as a gift from God. Can a man be a free...
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    Nuts For Arminians To Crack

    Who says we are saved by our free will? I didn't know Arminians teach that. Can you quote some that say that? Arminians teach we are saved by grace through faith.
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    Pelagianism: The Boogie Man

    The only one accusing anyone is you. You accuse people and fail to back up your accusations. What did I say that you find fault with? When I quoted John 3:18 or when I referred to John 6:44, or was it when I agreed with John 6:40. Look those passages up, and you will see that everything I...
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    I Have A Question For You

    Great points.
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    I Have A Question For You

    I would pray and ask God for direction, (if I was unsure) and ask Him to open hearts to Whatever His Will is on the matter. Then I would follow His direction, and trust Him with the rest. That said, If my pastor is a man of God, and I know it, and he makes a decision and some oppose his...
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    Pelagianism: The Boogie Man

    Basically what I said is that God loves and draws all men, but does not force them to come. How is this evil or sadistic?
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    Pelagianism: The Boogie Man

    What does that have to do with anything? We're not talking about children drowning, we are talking about unrepentant vs repentant sinners. We are not talking about four children drowning, we are talking about four sinners under the just wrath of God. He saves by grace through faith those who...
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    Pelagianism: The Boogie Man

    There is so many things here, I will have to reply in pieces. A. I never said everyone the Father draws comes to Jesus. In fact, I said the exact opposite. B. Agreed that the Jesus was lifted up to draw all men to Himself C. I don't know what your point is that God is not afraid. Of course...
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    Pelagianism: The Boogie Man

    I agreed completely up to the last seven words. Nothing you said up to that point precludes God foreknowing and electing individuals. He elects them according to His foreknowledge. God can foreknow and foreordain individuals before they are born. He did so with Jeremiah. ( Jeremiah 1:5). He knew...
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    Pelagianism: The Boogie Man

    I did not say you believe in open theism. I said the only reason one would take issue with points c and d of earlier is if they are open theists. If I am wrong on that, I am open to being corrected. I assume you are ok with all 4 points I listed. If not, which do you disagree with and why? As...
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    Pelagianism: The Boogie Man

    Utilyan and Rev. Mitchell. I am no Calvinist. With that said, which of the points below do you disagree with? Because I can't imagine what you are disagreeing with me about. This is my SIMPLE assertion boiled down to four points A. God draws B. Man resists and is damned or man repents and...
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    Pelagianism: The Boogie Man

    Well, brother Mitchell, that would DEPEND on the basis of their election. What do you think " elect according to the foreknowledge of God means?"
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    Pelagianism: The Boogie Man

    No, that would be double predestination, which I've already said I reject. God does not elect them to damnation, they themselves choose damnation. And I do not hold to TULIP if that helps. Once again, my position is this. S. Seperation- Natural man is dead/ seperated from God in trespasses...
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    Pelagianism: The Boogie Man

    I'm not an Arm either. I don't believe election is purely corporate. I believe it is both corporate and personal. But we can agree to disagree on that. Those who believe are the elect of God. But known unto God are all His works from the foundation of the world. Including His salvific works...
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    Pelagianism: The Boogie Man

    Holy and blameless. In other words, to be justified and sanctified. Salvific works. Agree those who believe are elect, but God knows/has known from all eternity who they are. Correct? And they were chosen before they believed. Based on the foreknowledge of God. Where Calvs and arms part is...
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    Pelagianism: The Boogie Man

    Elect is not a noun in 1 Peter, it is an adjective, and the root is eklegomai, which is the verb to choose. So to be elect and to be chosen is the same thing, just one is an adjective (elect/chosen) and the other is a verb elect/choose. I am chosen (a chosen one) because God chose me. 1 Peter...
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    Pelagianism: The Boogie Man

    I know the Calvinist position of foreknowledge, and have and am giving it consideration. But it is possible that the use of the word foreknowledge has the same usage that it has in Acts 2:23.
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