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Can you quote anybody besides Washer who says that it has to be visible immediately? But that statement is true in the proper sense. A man is not saved unless he believes King Jesus has the right to rule over every part of his life. Now, he may be far too immature spiritually to even know...

But the test of whether or not we got saved is whether or not we bear fruit. Those who never become anymore like Christ after they "get saved" did not get it. The Bible could not be plainer about this. James said, "Can faith save a man?" His answer was, "Faith without works is dead."

Very good verse.

Great verse!

That's the whole point of the thread.

It's about true holiness and the fact that those who try to live holier than the Bible are deficient in holiness because of it.

The goal for the Christian should NEVER be to be "super holy." The goal ought always be for him to be holy. Super holy is unholy.The BIBLE way is holiness. The moment you add to the Bible some extra level of austerity or asceticism, you have corrupted holiness. For example, if it is holy for...

Yes or no? He didn't say there was NO growth. Slow growth is not no growth. That was not to believers. An epistle is much like a Sunday morning sermon. Sitting there under the hearing of it IN THE CHURCH are saved people and lost people. Enemies of God are lost people. There was always...

Can one be saved if he does not believe that Jesus Christ is Lord? Can one be saved and live for many years and never grow an inch in sanctification?

No, it doesn't. You are hung up, perhaps justifiably, on the phrase "MAKE HIM Lord." I don't like that either. You are right that Jesus IS Lord. Nobody can make him Lord of anything because he already is Lord of EVERYTHING. But salvation comes to those who believe that he is Lord...

I agree. It is the same thing that keeps many Arminians from being able to grasp Calvinism. I know because I was a Free Will Baptist preacher for many years. I had all the wrong presuppositions about Calvinism. It is the same thing that keeps teetotalers from embracing the biblical...

So then you do not believe that genuine faith produces works? You believe dead faith can save a man? You believe that one does not have to confess that Jesus Christ is Lord in order to be saved? And I'd be interested in those quotes from Calvin that indicate that a man can be genuinely...

Most translations, I believe, translate it as, "Whoever cofesses with his mouth THAT JESUS IS LORD... shall be saved"

Paul Washer does not speak for all lordshippers any more than Jack Schaap speaks for all Independent Baptists.

14What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the...

So then dead faith can save? James asks the question, "Can faith save him?" The whole point of the context is that faith that does not produce works CANNOT SAVE HIM. 14What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15If a...

So then obedience can never show up in a converts life, if he lives for the next sixty years? He can rebel for 60 years after he "prays to receive Christ" and that lines up with what the Bible teaches about true conversion?

So then faith without works is... alive?? If you do NOT confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord... you still can be saved??? Hmmmm...

I don't think the second stupidest man on the planet thinks that that is how lorshippers believe.

I'm actually sympathetic to detractors of lordship salvation. I agree that the new believer should not be expected to be very sanctified upon his conversion or even for quite some time thereafter. I agree that to demand otherwise is to add to what the Bible requires for salvation. But...