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Good thoughts here. I am absolutely for feelings being the results of thoughts about God. I think we absolutely SHOULD have those. But this is not what I am addressing. I am addressing this idea that a person can walk into a room and know God is there because he "feels the Spirit." It's not...

Yes. He brings Scripture to your mind that comforts you. He fixes your mind on things above which comforts you. This is still not some ethereal detection device whereby we can "feel" when he is in the room.

Yes, and the reason people don't go the extra mile to avoid sin is because they do not prefer righteousness. DING!DING!DING!

WHY? Why do people prefer the easy bad over the hard good? I prefer to go the extra ten miles through traffic to get Indian food rather than stop for a Big Mac. Why? Because I prefer Indian over a Big Mac. So why do you not always go the extra mile for good?

I'm not against feelings. I'm just questioning the biblical foundation of the phrase "feeling the Spirit." Yes, you feel joy and delight in the service of God. But there is this ethereal sense in which some people think they can "feel" the presence of the Holy Spirit in a service. I think...

You still don't get it. Why do people choose the easy, feel good things when they could choose the hard but right things?

You still don't get it. Why do we choose the bad easy path over the good hard path? Your answer is, "Because we do." That is not an answer.

Feelings come and feelings go, And feelings are deceiving; My warrant is the Word of God-- Naught else is worth believing. Though all my heart should feel condemned For want of some sweet token, There is One greater than my heart Whose Word cannot be broken. I'll trust in God's unchanging Word...

And I asked WHY do we sin when its easy and when we are afraid. And you have not answered. And I am asking you WHY when we are hungry don't we stand our ground and do what is right like Jesus did? WHY don't we avoid exalting ourselves when the opportunity presents itself to do so? WHY...

I'm still waiting for the REASON we choose to sin. Enter the Jeopardy theme song.

Do you have a verse in its context that says that we should "feel the Spirit"?

That doesn't have the slightest thing to do with WHY HE SINNED. It only has to do with the fact THAT he sinned and was judged for it. WHY do you sin? That's the question. Try to stay on topic and try to post relative verses.

how on EARTH does that Scripture teach what you say?????

Challenge: Find anywhere in the Bible that it says we can or should "feel the Spirit." Addendum: This is a site filled with people who are already familiar with the proof texts. When you cite a passage- expound upon why that passage in its context teaches that we should "feel the spirit."...

That's the Biblical reason, Ann. We do what we do because we are what we are. We sin because we are sinners. The essence of sin nature is selfishness.

Can you not answer the question? Why not do right REGARDLESS of the circumstances?

So why did you do it? Why didn't you do the right thing in spite of the fact that it is more comfortable and easier to do the wrong thing? So why let your tired condition drive you to do evil? Why not do what's right regardless of your tired condition?

Our resident Pelagian said in another thread that people do not have to sin. He said he has lied hundreds of times but that he did not have to lie any one of those times. He could have gone through life without ever having told a lie. So, why didn't he? Why sin, if you don't have to...

Then why didn't you?

You need me to provide Scripture for you that God cannot SIN????????? For God the Son to stop loving God the Father would be for God to sin. If God CANNOT sin then each member of the Trinity CANNOT stop loving stop loving any other member of the Trinity. Thus, their love lacks choice...