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I agree. I think one of the errors we make is that we think, generally speaking, that the call to preach is the call to go pastor established churches. I think, generally speaking, the call to preach is the call to go and plant new churches. It appears in Titus and Timothy that the early...

God uses means.

In other words you DO want our kids to be stupid. AMAZING!! At least you admit it.

OK. Let me know when you are ready to deal with the facts presented in this thread.

I am brokenhearted for the Church in America. But I am also angry at the propensity for so many of them in the church and on this thread to deny responsibility. Remember, Jesus did not JUST weep for the lost sheep of Israel. He also excoriated the self-righteous of Israel. There is...

I have to provide 5 answers for every one you provide?:laugh: You ought to study the issue of accountability in the church. When you answer my question thoroughly I will address the rest of yours.

Then why learn Math? Let's just let ALL of our kids be stupid. Why bother learning American history- as long as our kids know Jesus then they do not need to learn ANYTHING. Except that God would be furious with that kind of sorriness from his people. The Bible says, "Whatsoever you...

You are a very bitter man. I post on average about 5.6 posts a day. That takes about 30 minutes a day. Get over yourself. Maybe if you were better educated... :laugh:

It's extreme. He might as well have said, "So when are you going to start gassing people in your community for not having Ph. D's" It's silly. That's AWFUL eccesiology! Church is LARGELY about accountability. So lets get to the bottom of it. If its negligence on the parents part...

That's a far far cry from "validating professions of faith by educational credentials." So you think the church should let parents raise their children in squalor without any cultivation whatsoever and remain in good standing? You think that when Paul said one who provides not for his own...

Prepare to be excoriated, castigated and eviscerated. There is only one thing on all of BB that is rougher than my OP's- the people who hate them. Compare their responses to my OP and it is clear. They are harsh against harshness. What hypocrisy! They are vicious against bluntness...

So what? It was not about what I didn't include. It was about what I DID include and that is that Independent Baptists and tongue talkers are below most other denominations in America. You think the ABC's low numbers change the IFB's low numbers? And down by 20 points to the mainline...

No I haven't. I proved it. You, as usual, do not know what you are talking about. Only 278,000 private school graduates a year out of the 3.3 million. And that's ALL private schools, secular, Christian and otherwise. Not statistically significant.

This is the kind of stuff people say when they are upset at being shown to be ignorant on a subject they pretended to know something about. RAPTURE. That was what we were talking about. RAPTURE. Then you very ignorantly and pompously say I need to "do some more study" because I have not...

False dichotomy. There is no show. You speak to your children differently than you speak to your boss. You treat the enemy on the battlefield differently than you treat your wife. And you speak differently to the people you debate than you do the people you pastor. There is no...

TCassidy, this might be helpful to you in your future eschatological studies:

We're not talking about Chiliasm. We're talking about the rapture. Respectfully, if you were well studied on the subject you'd not conflate the two. Millions are the Christians who have adhered to a historic premillennialism over the past two thousand years who would not touch "rapture...

The problem is that evangelicals and fundamentalists are not even getting their children high school diplomas on the level that atheists are. I believe part of the reason is because many evangelicals and fundamentalists are not real Christians. For example, on most church rolls there are as...

I'm not going to see the movie though I really wanted to for two reasons. 1. The director is quoted as saying that this was probably the most unbiblical movie ever made about a Bible story. 2. The rabid environmentalism in it is the message which totally undermines the real message. The...

That statement is questionable but even if it were undeniably the absolute EPITOME of Darby's new doctrine of the rapture, it still would represent an infinitesimally small percentage of Christians throughout 1800 years before Darby who held to such a notion. I already knew about that quote...