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You know, with all of glfredricks call for a positive expression of non-Calvinists views I'd think he might want to engage with this thread???

:applause::applause::applause: <---- I'm standing up too

Luke, You should be ashamed of yourself for this thread. You know full well that I believe that true saving faith alone saves. (by Grace through faith) The question is whether the faith is alive or dead, as James addresses and others have brought up. Jesus says, "You will know them by their...

In the same way you, a believer, are 'dead to sin' (ref Rm 6), yet alive enough to choose to sin. Or, maybe you can explain how someone is dead and yet 'alive' enough to rebel and run from God? Do corpses run and rebel? Don't they just lay there unresponsive? I think this shows Calvinists...

Does it have to be 'either-or'? I've not studied much of Barth, so I can't speak to that, but are you saying the gospel is just a historical record? I'm not sure I'm understanding your point. I think it is a historical record, but I think its also 'the power of God unto salvation' as they are...

He didn't preach the gospel. He told elements of truth contained in the gospel, but he didn't preach the gospel. Where did he mention the cross, atonement, resurrection and call them to repentance and faith? What kind of gospel doesn't mention those elements? ...one that hasn't been fulfilled...

Yep, because I suspect a similar response....a bunch of out of context quotes that don't say what they are being accused of saying... :smilewinkgrin: For you, does sticking one's head in the sand equal not responding to every random disagreement of those who happen to agree with me on one...

I'd like to know what he means by his statement, "...the reality which God perfectly knows consists of possibilities as well as actualities." Because that statement can't be denied. We do have to affirm that God knows all other possible outcomes and not just the actual one, right? I mean, if...

They both assume foreknowledge is equal to predetermination. (i.e. 'if God perfectly knew it before creating it then He predetermined it to be') They go opposite directions to answer the objections to this assumption, but that doesn't change the fact that they both have this assumption in...

True, but Calvinism affirms that 'God ordains whatsoever comes to pass' and indeed that would include the desire/nature of fallen man, would it not? In other words, the statement above which said, "Both accept the idea that God's foreknowledge implies foreordination, and therefore limits...

We couldn't fulfill the law, so God sent Christ to do it on our behalf, we couldn't understand his plan of redemption, so he sent the gospel. You assume His gracious provisions are insufficient. I don't. We both believe God does something to help us believe, you just believe he does it for...

Can you tell us who said that? You put it in quotes so I assume someone actually said that? Or is that your perception of what someone said? If so, can you quote what they said so we can see if you correctly understood what was said? Thanks.

I came across this quote from Robert Mason, which brings up an interesting point of discussion: "This is where Calvinism and Open Theism become strange bedfellows. Both accept the idea that God's foreknowledge implies foreordination, and therefore limits human autonomy. Calvinism replies: God...

Yes. "salvation has come to the Gentiles" -Rm 11:11 I'm a gentile. "For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all." - Rm 11:32 I'm a part of "all" "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." - Mk. 15:16...

Or do they have an excuse for not lighting when called and equipped to do so?

:thumbsup: Right. And to suggest the second flashlight simply doesn't light up because it doesn't have batteries while ignoring the reason the flashlights don't have batteries to begin with and the choice of the flashlight owner to place batteries in some and not others is a bit absurd.

A view of inclusion, whether perceived or actual, is certainly being addressed and shifted; but I agree that faith has always been the true means of inclusion. I think that is why the word "paradigm" was employed, as it addresses an incorrect "worldview" held to be orthodox in that day. Does...

I'm not the one who believes in pre-regeneration, so don't impose that standard onto my view please. I believe the gospel enlightens and empowers those who hear it so that they can freely respond to its appeal. New life (regeneration) comes through faith...as SCRIPTURE says: John 20:31: But...

Do hear how childish this sounds? We both believe our interpretation of the scriptures and statements like this only reflect poorly on you and this board. Actually, it says we cannot submit to his law, but you assume that to mean we can't believe in the one who fulfilled the Law for us. And...

This is another problem you have Aaron. You seem to assume that outward means (like the gospel) can't have an inward affect, which is simply untrue. You assume the Spirit must somehow work independently of God's appointed means to inwardly and irresistibly affect man's heart in order for the...