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I can't remember ever calling Calvin these names. I believe Calvin was much more balanced in his approach to these matters than many who bare his name today. Though obviously I would take issue with a number of his views (as did Arminius and others), that in no way negates our many many common...

Sorry, it was hard to tell because your accusation that he was being too "thin skinned" seemed unwarranted considering his point. He wasn't expressing that these posts were themselves unruly, but that they were the cause of unruly responses due to their being overtly misrepresentative. I'm...

Can you explain what you mean by "free will restored" because if the man (who is regenerated) WILL IRRESISTIBLY accept Christ then what is "free" about it? And before you say, "It is done according to his desire," then please tell us what determined his desire and then explain how that promotes...

Do you really think we believe that God's will is trumped by man's? REALLY? Do you really think we believe that man must save themselves? REALLY? If so, then you do not understand what we believe. It would be tantamount to one of us saying, "Calvinists believe that God is an evil puppet...

I see your point Mandym. I thought they would catch it, but I think it flew right on by. Allow me to explain: Mandym made the point that we would continue to have unruly debates as long as we continue to misrepresent each others views. He linked to those posts as examples of blatant...

In order to correctly interpret John 6 we must honestly answer these questions: 1) Who, at that time in history, was enabled to come to Christ? 2) Why were these enabled and not the rest? 3) Is this the same reason that unbelievers today are unable to come to Christ? 4) What are...

First, may I make a respectful request that you not attempt to define my views? If you'd like to quote me by copying and pasting something I've written, that would be fine, but I'd really rather you not do this again. Just a friendly request. Next, the Gospel IS the POWER of God unto...

:thumbs: In debate class we were trained to learn to restate the opponents arguments and come to an agreement on the terms of the debate before we were even allowed to continue with our rebuttal. It might do us all well to practice this here.

It doesn't do much good to 'publish it' if your opponent continues to take what you say and turn it into a straw-man. That is what you do when you hear our explanations and conclude things like "you believe that you save yourselves," or "you believe man's will trumps God's will." This...

David, I have only ever seen Christlike brotherly love from you on this forum. Granted, you don't typically get very deep into the nuances of the debate and most of your responses are very short (which may be wise). But, I don't think you need to apologize for anything. I second the motion...

Really? The Middle Ages: "Augustine’s teaching on grace was considered the touchstone of orthodoxy within the western church throughout the Middle Ages. Nevertheless, within an Augustinian context, theologians continued to debate the precise nature of God and man’s participation in...

It doesn't do me much good to have certain folks on my ignore list if you all keep quoting his posts. :laugh: I noticed he linked to two of my threads but failed to mention that both of them were started in direct rebuttal of negative and false accusations about our views, or a follow up to...

You may be right on some levels of influence, but if your desire is to discredit his writings on the basis of Catholic support then I suppose we would need to dismiss all truth supported by Catholic doctrine. Regardless of what you may feel about Catholics, their dissent or support of a...

Maybe that is the way you see it from your perspective. I think Arminius was motivated by the scriptures clear intent, not Catholic doctrine or human logic. When someone fully comes to understand the historical context of Israel's temporary hardening the intent becomes much more clear. But...

:thumbs: Very true. It amazes people when they actually read Calvin's and Arminius' actual writings. If you took off the name and intertwined their quotes you wouldn't be able to tell most of them apart. Both were very much focused on God's love and glory.

Tempting....but no....

What is really freaking amazing is that he was in his early 20s when he wrote it. Regardless of where one stands in regard to his views on election/predestination, everyone must at least acknowledge this man's extraordinary work and influence.

And yet every arguement I've made can be substantiated with similar published arguments made by non-Calvinistic scholars, so we all know where you are pulling this from too. :thumbs: Good idea. Ironic how the one who holds the view that claims God picks some over others is accusing us, the view...

Ok Aaron, which part of this is not accurate. Let's take it point by point: Have you and others here not argued that libertarian freedom is a logical impossibility and God could no more have created libertarian free creatures than he could have made a rock so big that he couldn't move it? Are...

Translation: I, Aaron, can't debate using the actual terms and claims of my opponent, so I'll make up outrageous, unfounded, and unrelated accusations so as to distract from my deficiencies.