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For those of us too cheap to pay the satellite company for higher bandwidth--what's the final summary? How does this guy reconcile the parents who claim their kids were killed?

And if it comes out that the investigation supports the chief's statements--what then?

Latest update: http://www.newson6.com/story/24755818/moore-police-to-host-news-conference-concerning-in-custody-death According to this article, they reviewed the cell phone video and attempted to return the cellphone to the wife. Gina, I have a question: If it comes out that detectives...

Not a misrepresentation, because you believe that all of them may be found innocent. You've never addressed the ones that plead guilty, accept their punishment, and refuse appeals on their behalf. Fallacy. To the point of farce. You've set up a false premise. Consider: No human-derived...

I really wanted to be done with this; but CTB went and stuck his foot in his mouth again. First he says it's more Christ-like to ensure the guilty or the innocent are miserable and suffering for the rest of their lives; then this. How can you call anyone else "pro-death" when you won't stand...

Corruption? Or poor training? Or both? I worked with some bad security specialist guys in my day; but if a case were to be made for them to be corrupt, it was because of poor training and lack of proper supervision.

Well, now, that's veeery interesting.... The link provided does not give the total number of officers nation-wide, so a correlating percentage of officers guilty of excessive force is hard to draw a definitive number. In the one chart that lists states, it pretty much comes out to about...

6,613 sworn law enforcement officers -- Out of how many nationwide?

Poncho - you should have posted that as a separate thread. When you mix them like this, it dilutes the over-arching message.

So already we have two different versions of what happened. In the first version from the OP, the step-father said the third officer appeared and ordered the first two to taser the kid. In the other version, the step-father said the first two tasered the kid, and then the third cop showed up...

It was worthy of bringing up when the GOP was against it; not worthy of a comment when the workers themselves voted against it?

Shall we pull the voting records to see just how the democrats tried to stop it?

That's rich. And obviously, you won't respond to my "Christ-like" query because it defies explanation in light of your other positions. This thread is obviously done, so allow me to submit my final post. The following is based on CTB's comments in this thread, and his...

Um...no. A settled view is a foundation; otherwise, we simply bend and sway whatever way the wind blows. Should we re-evaluate our views, especially if new information comes to light. But that in no way espouses that we should have no settled views at all.

Otherwise known as the "have you stopped beating your wife" premise. No human-designed system is perfect. People are found guilty based on the evidence and testimony available. But you're advocating that we abolish the death penalty because a few mistakes have been made. What about those that...

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/14/us/tennessee-vw-union-vote/index.html?c=us So how astonished are those democrats now that the employees themselves voted against unionization?

Gina--Channel 9 and another source said one video. Channel 4 now indicates more than one cell phone recording. Why do you trust channel 4 more than channel 9 or the other source? Next question: what *exactly* happened? Did the man ignore police who were attempting to respond to a domestic...

Gina - what exactly is "wow"? What *exactly* happened?

You've never been institutionalized, CTB. I've come close, due to deployments. So if I were innocent, but facing the choice between execution or life in prison--I personally would be hard-pressed NOT to choose the execution. How many sentenced to death opt for a speedy execution, refusing...

In the meantime, your preference is to subject them to years and years and years of misery and suffering. If you won't admit it to us, at least admit it to yourself.