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I do not see long periods of time elapsing between belief and baptism, as for Phillip and the eunich, there is no indication that weeks, months or years went by. As for Constantine, this is not a biblical account of conversion, I would hardly use it for an indication of anything. It amazes...

2 Tim 2:2 2 And the things that you have heard from me among many witnesses, commit these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also. NKJV They all do, is there a denomination or group out there that does not lay claim to be of the one true church teaching the truth about...

DARRON STEELE WROTE: I was not disagreeing with you that baptism is a privilege, I was just pointing out that it is a command, which makes it essential. Some commands are directly pointed at Christ's followers as being required. I did not mean to suggest what you are saying that I have...

JOHNNY WROTE Show me a passage from the Book of Acts or any conversion after the Day of Penecost who waited months, and years to be baptized.

Red Herring Next we will start talking about whether church buildings are biblical. You miss the point or your just trying to be funny. So is there not an absolute standard that we can know for sure how we ought to conduct ourselves in all matters? Now we are at the notion that...

I am suprised that the COC is aligned with the JW and MOR. The vast differences can easily be seen. I would like to know where your quote came from and the source of the website would help. As for the Holy Spirit, He is God, He is just as much the creator as the Father and the Son. There...

Darron Steele: Water baptism is a command, which makes it essential for salvation. It is for the remission of sins, I know we have been over Acts 2:38 many times and you feel that the English translations to not do a good job, but I think they do just fine, they rendered it just the way...

Why? The thief on the cross is saved like all people in scripture, faith and obedience to what God commands us to do. It is His blessing we must simply submit to Him. We submit in obedience because of faith. 1 Peter 1:22, 23 22Since you have in obedience to the truth purified your souls for...

I think the point of the OP was that how can all claim to follow Christ if all a not in agreement with Christ's prayer for unity. Pointing out the differences between denominations only clarifies that all the denominations cannot be following Christ due to the vast beliefs. Do you see...

So am I damned for believing that baptism is essential for salvation? Yes or NO? THen I would like to hear the passage that proves that it is not essential. Ephesians 2:8, 9 does not teach that baptism is not essential, I just assume that someone will bring that passage up. Someone has...

DHK: This cannot be, obedience is a testimony that you have faith. If Noah would have believed God about the ark then he by faith would have built it, if he would have believed God and noty built the ark that would have been an indication that he did not have faith in God and he could not be...

Some think this thread is nonsense and should be closed, but this is important. When it comes to salvation issues a majority of denominations have divided. Lutherans teach that baptism (by sprinkling of babies and believing adults) "cleanses from sin, snatches us from the power of Satan, and...

Denominationalism is inherently and fundamentally wrong. Jesus came to earth, fulfilled prophecy, performed miracles, established that he was the Messiah, died on the cross, was resurrected the third day, ascended back to the Father, and was received into glory. He promised to build His church...

The most important thing to know about denominations is that it is not biblical. Nowhere in N.T. scripture do you find this kind of so called "Christian" division being authorized. When it comes down to picking and choosing a church, it usually ends up being which one do I like instead of which...

BOBRYAN WROTE: If God removes all that depravity disables and depravity is what keeps us from choosing life and since you said God draws all men then would not all men choose life because this depravity is disabled?

TCGREEK WROTE: Actually in verse 27 Jesus introduced ERGON "WORK". I agree: John 6:27 27 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him." NKJV Do...

Its not that I cannot appreciate the use of the term, its just that I do not see the irony that you spoke of. This is the work of God, again is it all on God to do for us or must we do something? Yes, we do or no we do not. Again I am not basing belief as a work on one verse, I will bring...

Perhaps I am failing to appreciate the irony, yet I am taking the passage at point blank. I am not creating a doctrine on the one passage, I am merly striving to understand the point Jesus is making about the work of God. Even apart from this passage, I still must actually believe, put my...

I do, Jesus simply tells them the work that they should do, believe in Him whom the Father has sent. Faith takes work, it does not take a genius to figure this out, in order for you to believe, you must listen or read the word of God, you have to make a choice about whether you will believe...

Benefactor Wrote: Verse 43 speaks of those who believe, which does not speak of faith alone. Verse 44-46 Speaking in tongues does not prove that one is saved. Did those Samaritians in Acts 8 who believed and then were baptized saved even though they did not receive the H.S.? They believed...