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  1. J

    Baptism:Luther, Knox, Calvin, Augustine...

    1. One can have spiritual life by faith alone? T or F 2. Repentance is necessary to one having spiritual life? T or F 3. An alien sinner must come to faith before he can repent (Acts 2:27, 28; Roman 10:14)? T or F 4.A sinner who comes to faith but who does not repent still has spiritual...
  2. J

    The walls of Jericho

    . Faith is a work, repentance is a work, confession is a work, baptism is a work! Is belief something that we do our God does for us?If we have to believe is it not us working? If repentance is a change who changes, us or God? If we change is that not work? Certainly no one here would say...
  3. J

    The walls of Jericho

    Thats not what I said, this is what I said: Then I explained it for you further when I said:
  4. J

    The walls of Jericho

    If man is depraved to the point of not coming to God, and if God has to work within a person to change his heart, then is God not changing the person so as to believe? So before someone can believe or come to faith, many say that there has to be a change that occurs from outside of that...
  5. J

    Baptism:Luther, Knox, Calvin, Augustine...

    No time, my position on faith has always been the same. As I said before what I may or may not have said in the pass I can assure you was the same. Faith that saves is a faith that leads one to repent. The question does faith include repentance: yes As well as other acts of obedience God...
  6. J

    Baptism:Luther, Knox, Calvin, Augustine...

    I am sure it is just how we define things in any particular part of our debate. I will clarify so I am not irritating you any further. I do not believe in faith alone salvation, repentance is always done in faith. If I say I believe and that faith saves me it includes obedience, which...
  7. J

    The walls of Jericho

    I love sarcasm. This is not a parable, this is one of many examples of God offering a blessing that is received only when man is obedient in faith to fully receive that which is offered by God. Heb 11:30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down after they were encircled for seven days. NKJV...
  8. J

    The walls of Jericho

    The question is not whether man is saved by faith, we all agree with that, but the question is "WHEN" is man saved by faith? Immediately when they believe or after their faith leads to certain acts of obedience? Does the expression "by faith" necessarily mean at the point of faith...
  9. J

    Baptism:Luther, Knox, Calvin, Augustine...

    Acts 10:43 says "every one that believeth on him |receives| remission of sins" (ASV|ESV|ASV). It is obvious that the word "Believe" in this passage incorporates more than just mental acknowledgment. If remission of sins is recieved upon this belief then it has to be different then the belief...
  10. J

    Baptism:Luther, Knox, Calvin, Augustine...

    Without rehashing things as you have pointed out, let me clarify briefly what i see scripture teaching and what you have sid about my thoughts. Acts 2:38 does not teach that forgiveness of sins is soley on baptism, I deny that it is repentance and baptism that follows belief, conviction...
  11. J

    Baptism:Luther, Knox, Calvin, Augustine...

    Acts 2:38 38Peter said to them, "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Notice that "Repent" stands alone and is followed by a comma, Next we have "And," which demontrates that...
  12. J

    The Lord's church a denominational mess?

    Good point! For this very reason I have set my mark on striving to be open about scripture and have notice some things among my brethren that I am not in agreement about. But nevertheless the OP does not exclude any group it actually includes all groups not striving for biblical unity as Jesus...
  13. J

    Baptism:Luther, Knox, Calvin, Augustine...

    That is great and I agree. But what is the specific purpose of water baptism according to scripture? Verses and application would be nice. Here is one: Acts 22:16 16 And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.' NKJV...
  14. J

    Baptism:Luther, Knox, Calvin, Augustine...

    Know what stripe do you wear? Are you a Baptist now? How did you go from believing what you learned in the church of Christ to possibly believing much contrary to those beliefs? If you prefer to respond in private I understand.
  15. J

    The Lord's church a denominational mess?

    I do not have church, if there is one true church it holds no name of man other than our Lord. I doubt that my point about denominations and churches set up by men is moot as you say. I know the Lord did not intend for all this religious division in His so called name. If ther be no true...
  16. J

    The Lord's church a denominational mess?

    So it it just the Evangelicals who will be in heaven? What are the differences that Jesus spoke of concerning His people? Do denominations agree on how one becomes a Christians? I do not think so, this forum is evidence of that. Christians are not like Americans some being of different...
  17. J

    The Lord's church a denominational mess?

    It is said tht the Lord's church is made up of a few saved people from every denomination that hold to certain so called first(essential) principles. If this is the case then the Lord's church is dis-organized and in-effecient and a mess. I do not see unity and oneness which Christ prayed...
  18. J

    Baptism:Luther, Knox, Calvin, Augustine...

    Dear MR. Darron Steele, I hope we will be hearing from you on the passages that were originally asked of you and others showing how scripture proves the view that baptism is an "Outward sign of an inward grace", that it is a sign of salvation that has already occured. Oh and by the way Mr...
  19. J

    Baptism:Luther, Knox, Calvin, Augustine...

    Perhaps Darron Steele or anyone else can tell us what the purpose of water baptism is for with scripture. BAPTISM: is done FOR the forgiveness of sins (Acts 2:38) is done to SAVE us (1Peter 3:21, Acts 2:40, Mark 16:16) Is done to WASH AWAY OUR SINS (Acts 22:16) is done to be...
  20. J

    Baptism:Luther, Knox, Calvin, Augustine...

    It is not to declare whether I agree or disagree with the quotes above, it is about showing how through the years starting from the first century many have tried to understand the truth concerning the purpose of baptism. Evangelicals today proclaim salvation by faith alone, yet do not understand...
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