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  1. J

    Once Saved Always Saved?

    Quench means to put out, I did not mean that I believe that we can snuff the H.S out. You act as if God forces us to remain in the Spirit if we wish not to be. I can quench the H.S. just like I can grieve the H.S. 1 Thess 5:16-22 16 Rejoice always; 17 pray without ceasing; 18 in...
  2. J

    The Apostle Paul's referenes to Holy Spirit baptism

    I believe that is correct. I would say yes as well. My only issue is that Galatians shows that one receives the Promise of the H.S. because they are sons. Other passages show the H.S. being received at different times. Even Acts 2:38 shows this in a different sequence than Acts 10...
  3. J

    The church of Christ and the conversion of the Gentiles (Acts 10, cf. Acts 15)

    Acts 2:4-7 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. 5 The Crowd's Response And there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from every nation under heaven. 6 And when this sound occurred, the...
  4. J

    The church of Christ and the conversion of the Gentiles (Acts 10, cf. Acts 15)

    Acts2:7 declares that those who spoke in tongues were Galileans and the multitude of people had yet to receive the word preached, but I believe that on that day when Peter preached to them they were told what to do in order to receive the Gift of the H.S. So indeed the H.S. was poured out upon...
  5. J

    Once Saved Always Saved?

    First it is not a I sinned once and "BANG" I no longer have the H.S. I believe that 1 John 1:7 declares that when we sin and if confess our sins then we are covered by the blood of Christ and remain in the light. What does it mean to quench the Spirit? 1 Thess 5:19 19 Do not quench the...
  6. J

    The Apostle Paul's referenes to Holy Spirit baptism

    1. They certainly were magnifying God, I do not know if that was worship or not, some translations say that the were exalting God. 2.Yes all Christians have been baptized with the HS. 3.Yes the Spirit gives life. 4.Yes Galatians 4:6 says that because you are sons of God sent forth His...
  7. J

    Once Saved Always Saved?

    Can you show me from my last post where this statement you have made is true.
  8. J

    The Apostle Paul's referenes to Holy Spirit baptism

    So is this one of your rules, what do you mean by fragment the thread, can I not ask questions? If I did not respond you would be talking to yourself.
  9. J

    Once Saved Always Saved?

    Some Christians deal with the passages concerning falling away by claiming they are hypothetical. "IF" a person could depart from God, he could not return. But, it makes no sense for God to constantly warn us against apostasy if it were not possible. These are not idle threats. The Word of God...
  10. J

    The Apostle Paul's referenes to Holy Spirit baptism

    ------------------------- I have tried to see it this way but I find it very difficult to come to this conclusion, the new birth is one new birth with two elements, water and Spirit. I believe that there is one baptism that keeps the unity of the Spirit. I believe that we are baptized with...
  11. J

    The church of Christ and the conversion of the Gentiles (Acts 10, cf. Acts 15)

    I expect this kinda of talk, its refreshing to know that you have everything done perfectly with your group of people as well (sarcasm). If someone is truly searching let's not mock them because they do not believe exactly with what you believe. I could be doing a lot of other things right know...
  12. J

    The church of Christ and the conversion of the Gentiles (Acts 10, cf. Acts 15)

    Acts 10:44-47 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. It is clear to me that they heard the word and the H.S. fell upon them. 45 And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the...
  13. J

    The church of Christ and the conversion of the Gentiles (Acts 10, cf. Acts 15)

    You say that the Jews on the day of Pentecost were saved before they recieved the baptism of the H.S. Acts 2:4 You say that the Gentiles were saved through the baptism of the Holy Spirit. So are you claiming that Jews are saved in a different manner than the Gentiles today?
  14. J

    The church of Christ and the conversion of the Gentiles (Acts 10, cf. Acts 15)

    I have not avoided them I am still seeking to understand how you harmonize all the conversion accounts in the book of Acts and then proclaim that your saved only the way Cornelius was saved. When Acts 2:41 says that they were added to the church when they recieved the word and were being...
  15. J

    Poll: Is the papacy that Man of Sin, Antichrist?

    I thought an amillenialist does not believe in a literal earthly thousand year reign of Christ, I thought they believed that we are living in His reign right now her on earth and that the thousand years are not literal but shows a long period of time but with an end. Maybe I don't understand...
  16. J

    The church of Christ and the conversion of the Gentiles (Acts 10, cf. Acts 15)

    If someone is comitted to salvation by faith alone and is not willing to rethink their position, no amount of scriptural evidence is going to convince them otherwise.
  17. J

    Forgiveness

    Luke 17:3-4 3 Take heed to yourselves. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. 4 And if he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day returns to you, saying, 'I repent,' you shall forgive him." NKJV I think this sums it up for...
  18. J

    Poll: Is the papacy that Man of Sin, Antichrist?

    I interested to hear how they and you came to believe this. What fufillments do you see that brings you to this conclusion? I assume you are speaking of a specific scriptures since the scriptures speak of many antichrists that were among them even when John wrote his first Epistle. 1...
  19. J

    The church of Christ and the conversion of the Gentiles (Acts 10, cf. Acts 15)

    Acts 15:7 7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them:"Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. NKJV I would say that "Believe" with in this context refers to...
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