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I'm done here; this is a dialogue of the deaf.

Again, you are incorrect. The Catholic Catechism: Note: anyone can baptise if there is no Catholic priest available. That's why the Catholic Church doesn't rebaptise people entering their Church from other denominations provided they have already been baptised in those denominations using the...

Insults are the refuge of those who know they've lost the argument.

You are incorrect in your understanding of infallibility. The relvant section of the Catholic catechism is here: Note it is in the act of proclamation that the infallibility lies.

What bit don't you think I know what I'm posting? I think I've been quite clear - unlike you who seems to believe in saying 20 impossible things before breakfast.

No I didn't answer it, because you were being stupid about it. In fact, the more you post arrant drivel like that, the more you convince me that the Catholics have got it right - or at least a heck of a lot more right than the Baptists. OK, you don't believe the writers of Scripture were...

Which bit is 'baloney'?

That is has - somehow - to be completed after death in the vast majority of cases; you yourself have acknowledged that it is incomplete at death and therefore must somehow continue post-mortem, as it were. Now, I don't fully buy into the Catholic concept of Purgatory since there is too much...

I have plenty of common sense and your contradictory statements make no sense whatsoever. Care to rethink?

Well, my grandmother disproves your prejudiced thesis, as does Lori4dogs and millions of other Catholics. And baptism by anyone 'gets you in' according to Catholic soteriology.

Explain then how you harmonise the statements above: "No one on this earth will ever be completely perfect at death" and "It is complete at death"?

Now you're being silly! Can you not tell the difference between sinlessness and infallibility? Do you believe that when the human writers of the Bible, inspired by the Holy Spirit, wrote or dictated the words that appear in the Bible you have, that those words were infallible? I'm sure you do...

Well, according to you she couldn't have believed what was in the Bible and remained a committed Catholic. I have news for you: she did both, which rather gives the lie to your above post and exposes it for the heap of anti-Catholic bigotry that it is.

Then if I die before I am perfect, how can I stand in His presence? How can the Perfect mingle with the imperfect??? [ETA - it also flatly contradicts your earlier statement on the last page where you say that sanctification is complete at death - which is it?]

Many Catholics do read the Bible; I've said before that my own grandmother, mother to two priests, had two Bibles in her house (one in her bedroom and one in her living-room) and read from them every day, yet she remained a Catholic to the day she died. Now, either you have some kind of special...

Oh, hang on - we've gone from talking about sinless Popes to infallible Popes in one post. Do try to be consistent: are we talking about sinlessness or infallibility?

You miss the point: the excommunication is a comment on his parlous relationship with Jesus Christ.

Because such a view is deeply mistaken.

It was a question to Agnus re the Church Fathers. I'm after the how; you seem to be suggesting that God waits until you are perfect in this life and then, WHAM!, He whisks you off to Heaven. That seems to leave God rather dependent on me and implies that if I continue to sin in just one area of...

Yes and no - see here. Note that the excommunicate is deemed to remain a Christian.