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The calvinist will say God has to give you faith but that view is not biblical. Faith is a response of the person to the drawing of God.

I agree man is depraved just as we see in scripture. It is the flawed calvinist view that I oppose. They have taken it to far.

@Charlie24 if I my interject here. The depravity of man is biblical it is the Total Depravity of calvinism that is questionable. Total depravity in Calvinism is the doctrine that, as a result of original sin, every person is born with a sinful nature that completely incapacitates them from...

You call Prevenient Grace and invention but that is not how I see it. I see it as God's grace at work in a person's life before they are aware of it, enabling them to respond in faith. This grace enables people to choose to accept or reject salvation thus their ultimate decision remains their...

@Martin Marprelate you say faith is a gift from God but none of the verses that you posted support that view. You have to read your view into the text. But what does the bible say? God does not give us faith but requires that we have faith, that we trust in His risen son. Rom 1:16 For I am...

You have a really weird view of scripture BF. The more you post the more you prove that you do not trust the word of God.

No, I did not misunderstand what you wrote. Our views are polar opposites.

How am I making your point? What were your questions? 1. Were those three Patriarchs human at that time Jesus spoke? Yes or no. 2. Were they physical at that time that Jesus spoke? Yes or no. In post #7 you said this "Being human does not require being physical. When a person dies he still has...

This is who did Christ dies for BF Joh_3:17 the world Heb_2:9 every man 1Jn_2:2 the whole world 1Ti_2:5-6 for all 1Ti_4:10 all men Rom_5:6 the ungodly Rom_5:8 sinners 2Co_5:14-15 for all Rom 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, Are they all redeemed from your "prison...

Really does not take long to figure BF out.

What you do is called Eisegesis. You inject your own ideas into the text, making it mean whatever you want. It is a mishandling of the text.

1Co 15:17 and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins. Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave...

You want others to exegete and explain verses but you never do that.

BF you are being a complete fool when you post such dumb comments. You cannot be as ill informed of the word of God as your posts suggest.

Odd that you should ask someone to do what you never do on this board.

BF I have shown you over and over that while the death of Christ reconciled the whole world to God it is only through faith in the risen Christ that anyone will be saved. That is just what Rom 5:10 shows us BF. Of course I believe the good news of our salvation. I have been pointing it out to...

You seem to be upset KY. I point out the flaws in your calvinism that you seem willing to accept, but why do you think others should follow a religion that is based on pagan philosophy just because you do? History is neither juvenile or claptrap, it is just history. Rather than getting mad at...

KY I cannot speak for others but as foe me I disagree with calvinism because it is not biblical. The basis of calvinism is from augustine and his time in pagan philosophy. Do the research yourself KY. As a Christian I am commanded to stand against false teachings. Would expect me to do any...

Did any of the Patriarchs have a cognitive state, self-awareness at the time of Christ Jesus? You are confusing physical with spiritual. The human body dies the spirit does not. Mat 22:31 "But regarding the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God: Mat 22:32...

The spirit is not human or do you have a different meaning for human. What were your questions? 1. Were those three Patriarchs human at that time Jesus spoke? Yes or no. 2. Were they physical at that time that Jesus spoke? Yes or no. You ask about whether they were human and they do not fit...