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  1. John of Japan

    John R Rice and Jack Hyles were not dispensationalists?

    Grandpa wasn't completely happy that I went to Japan as a missionary, saying "You can win more souls in America," but he went to Heaven before I became fully dispensational. :) (He wanted me to work with him in his ministry). However, he and Grandma supported me financially even before I began...
  2. John of Japan

    John R Rice and Jack Hyles were not dispensationalists?

    Thank you. I wondered what he meant. In his book False Doctrines, he mainly opposes Bullinger's "Acts 28 ultra-dispensationalism." I don't know that modern dispensationalists deny those NT books as being for us; at least I've never read that in Ryrie, Vlach, Showers, etc.
  3. John of Japan

    John R Rice and Jack Hyles were not dispensationalists?

    Glad you were able to get out of that mess! They certainly have some weird beliefs. They are the "Acts 28" ultra-dispensationalists I've mentioned. The mid-Acts guys are somewhat less radical, but share some of the same beliefs. The mid-Acts headquarters are quite near us, and I've met and...
  4. John of Japan

    John R Rice and Jack Hyles were not dispensationalists?

    I kind of had to grow up and think for myself at that time in my life. I was simply accepting all that my grandfather taught without question. Interacting with the good men of the mission board, I began to rethink some things. I was quite blessed by Dr. Monroe Parker, the director of the board...
  5. John of Japan

    John R Rice and Jack Hyles were not dispensationalists?

    In this sermon Rice concentrates on the "Acts 28" Bullinger, but in the area of baptism, mid-Acts dispensationalists such as O'Hair and Stam agree with Bullinger that baptism is not for this dispensation. But Rice does not mention those men in the sermon.
  6. John of Japan

    John R Rice and Jack Hyles were not dispensationalists?

    Not being a dispensationalist he was not always conversant with the doctrine. In the quote you give, he doesn't specify what notes. His book on False Doctrines has a chapter on ultra-dispensationalism, but I don't have it here. Maybe I can bring it tomorrow and give some quotes.
  7. John of Japan

    John R Rice and Jack Hyles were not dispensationalists?

    He did believe in dispensations, just not dispensationalism. Ryrie states that the sine non qua (absolutely necessary) of dispensationalism is the separation of Israel and the church. Rice did not hold to that doctrine.
  8. John of Japan

    John R Rice and Jack Hyles were not dispensationalists?

    It means that the church (as the body of Christ) does not include OT saints. The church dispensation started with Pentecost in Acts 2, and does not include any saints from the dispensation of Mosaic Law, or any dispensation before that. I prefer "church age" to "age of grace" myself. There has...
  9. John of Japan

    John R Rice and Jack Hyles were not dispensationalists?

    I have classified John R. Rice as a historical premillennialist, but contra some of that stripe he was also pre-trib. He was definitely not a dispensationalist. He respected Scofield, but disagreed with him in his books and sermons numerous times. His number one disagreement was his belief that...
  10. John of Japan

    Dispensational Truth - In Time & Eternity

    Very strangely, in his post #4 Alan seems to be claiming my statements (not italicized) as his (italicized). I'll just conclude that he doesn't know how to do quotes in the BB environment. For the record, 1 Cor. 9:17 is never, ever translated with "dispensed." That was invented by Alan, or...
  11. John of Japan

    Dispensational Truth - In Time & Eternity

    I find it somewhat disingenuous to try to bring in Chafer on the side of opposition to dispensationalism. Chafer wrote a 7 volume Systematic Theology (which I have) which was premillennial and dispensational. In fact, the paper cover says, "Evangelical, Premillennial and Dispensational. "He...
  12. John of Japan

    Dispensational Truth - In Time & Eternity

    Poor Alan. All he can do is quote other people. I would that he would answer dispensationalism with his own thinking, but so far he has not.
  13. John of Japan

    Dispensational Truth - In Time & Eternity

    @Alan Dale Gross I have no desire to argue with your quotes of Chafer without your own thinking. Have a nice day.
  14. John of Japan

    Dispensational Truth - In Time & Eternity

    Good job of research. I was mistaken. The word "economy" does come from the Greek word. This is not simply a different spelling, but the accusative of oikonomia. And oikonomos is the word for steward, not stewardship. Yes, absolutely. It says just that. We reign with Him on earth.
  15. John of Japan

    Dispensational Truth - In Time & Eternity

    This post by Alan is so mixed up it's hard to know where my words are and where his are. But he makes a good point or two, so I'll try to answer what I can. I deleted what I wrote and will answer what he wrote. Again, no dispensationalist uses the word "dispense" concerning a dispensation. It...
  16. John of Japan

    Dispensationalism

    Thank you for helping me rebut dispensationalism. No one in revised dispensationalism defines a dispensation as "a period of time." Even in Pink's day, Lewis Sperry Chafer did not define it that way. This is complete baloney. No dispensational theology treats a dispensation as something to be...
  17. John of Japan

    Dispensationalism

    The Gaelic was part of it, but there was a Presbyterian church he could have gone to, but he and the pastor didn't get along. The pastor of that church was a C alvinist. Good takes on the history. Thank you.
  18. John of Japan

    Dispensationalism

    Belcher actually claimed to be a fan of Pink, so I don't know about it being a hatchet job. And I have read the biography by Murray also, and it did not persuade me. As for Martyn Lloyd-Jones, not being a Calvinist I do not read his works (though I have read books by Calvinists). And since Pink...
  19. John of Japan

    Dispensationalism

    That is not even a dispensational doctrine. If you think it is, I challenge you to provide direct quotes from dispensational scholars that prove it. I'll even help you. Here is a website with articles from genuine dispensational scholars: Journal of Dispensational Theology at: Journal of...
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