A man who is going to stand up for the women on here

[donnA]

men on this board should mind thier own business when it comes to another man's wife.

 

[paul wassona]

Really? And you know that "most of these men's wives are at work supporting their [tails]" how, exactly?

Don't get me wrong, I believe it's biblical that men should be the ones responsible for financially providing for their home, but that doesn't mean that women are forbidden from working. It just means that it's not the woman's prime family responsibility to do so. Nor does it mean that, just because a woman works, that she's "supporting" her husband, or that the husband is failing in that responsibility somehow. There's nothing scripturally wrong with a woman working, so long as that does not adversely affect the home spiritually.

I guess your version of "keepers at home" means on a wants vs needs basis?

I never said there was something wrong with women working, in fact, in the service industry, I have found that a woman answering the phone is oftentimes more knowledgable than the rest of the guys at the sales counter.

Now, getting back to the OP post, standing up for women is something that all men everywhere should be doing. Trying to "put women in their place", otoh, is something that no man has the authority to do.

Then why did the Apostles do just that? And they did it under inspiration on top of all that.:smilewinkgrin:

 

[paul wassona]

The women that I know, personally, whom God has not called to a profession, do not sit on a chaise lounge or any other type of cushiony seat. They work very, very, very hard. And their husbands do to.

The women that I know, personally, whom God has called to be nurses, teachers, fireman, and parole officers, are not supporting their husbands nor working to have more "things". Their husbands work hard and the wives are in the professional fields that they are in by God's calling on their lives.

Well, although you jumped to a conclusion, my wife is right now napping after doing about 6 hours in the home. She ate the grapes and decided it would be nice to just go lie down.:sleeping_2:

 

[pinoybaptist]

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Then why did the Apostles do just that? And they did it under inspiration on top of all that.:smilewinkgrin:

All due respects to you and johnv, but the apostles did not dictate on how they are to behave familially.
The restriction is against women taking up rulership in the house of God.

 

[paul wassona]

This is a problem I have with my Pastor. He makes a great salary ($90k) annually. Though he sees that even though he has children that its necissary for his wife to work. I have four children and make less than he which I find is ok but my wife and I agreed that we would do with out to raise our children using the scriptures template. She's at home and I work. We do without certain nice things but our kids get the benefit of a continual parent at home. Which I think is the way God wants it. Its disturbing that during tithes sermons and financial seminars its encouraged to have two sources of incomes. I'm becoming very perplexed.

Just keep on doing exactly what you're doing, you won't regret it and odds show he will.

Children carry that close knit home atmosphere all throughout their lives. When you are old and feeble, unable to care for yourself, the chances are that at least one of your children will be there for you.:thumbs:

 

[Johnv]

I guess your version of "keepers at home" means on a wants vs needs basis?

"My version" of the phrase is scripturally consistent. You have a problem with that.

Then why did the Apostles do just that?

They didn't. As previously noted, Paul was not dictating how we are to behave familially. His admonition was against younger women usurping rulership in the house of God.

 

[paul wassona]

All due respects to you and johnv, but the apostles did not dictate on how they are to behave familially.
The restriction is against women taking up rulership in the house of God.

Oh? I thought it was the fact women are known to be much more tedious in matters of cleanliness than men.

The facts are still intact, I have in no way dictated to my wife what she does in the home or in the workplace. We accept the biblical way to have a home where God is NOT the co-pilot.:smilewinkgrin:

The only dictating I do to her is tell her to kiss me when I want her to KISS me!

 

[paul wassona]

"My version" of the phrase is scripturally consistent. You have a problem with that.

Sure it is, that's why we don't see you telling anyone what it is. That leaves us no other conclusion that your bible exists in the figment of your imagination.:smilewinkgrin:

 

[Johnv]

I thought it was the fact women are known to be much more tedious in matters of cleanliness than men.

You're kidding, aren't you?

 

[paul wassona]

That's YOUR problem. Don't derail the thread.

Oh? So in your opinion it is derailing a thread because I don't behave as the one who is guilty of the things in your inflammatory thread?

I know how you work and thought it best to defend myself against your accusations.

I'll run to the defense of any lady, but if she wants to wear a tool belt and welding tools dangling off it that is her perogative. It would also mean she is probably well fit to handle herself in any confrontation.

 

[paul wassona]

You're kidding, aren't you?

No. Let a woman know well in advance company is coming. She'll thank you and watch her go!

Let her know about 5 minutes before company is supposed to arrive and she'll move faster, but she's gritting her teeth and waiting for the next chance to let you have it.

Let a man know he's got company coming and he's stuffing things down into the couch.

I know what your problem is now, you really do think you're part of the "Q" (too much Star Trek, The Next Generation)

 

[paul wassona]

This is a compare and contrast thread. On one hand you have the bed wetting liberal baptist and on the other you have the insulting, in your face, judgmental pharisee baptist.

Thanks for identifying yourself for us all.

 

[paul wassona]

can you elucidate this for this poor simian ?
thank you.

Wow, I called some men a lizard and you called sag an ape!

 

[paul wassona]

My Pastor is having problems with his mortgage pmt. And so when I hear sermons with regard to the tithe I become skeptical.

Maybe he shouldn't be living so "high on the hog"?

We live in a modular home.:saint:

 

[annsni]

No. Let a woman know well in advance company is coming. She'll thank you and watch her go!

Let her know about 5 minutes before company is supposed to arrive and she'll move faster, but she's gritting her teeth and waiting for the next chance to let you have it.

Let a man know he's got company coming and he's stuffing things down into the couch.

I know what your problem is now, you really do think you're part of the "Q" (too much Star Trek, The Next Generation)

Hmmm - that's quite a bit of stereotyping, isn't it??

I know some women who wouldn't care what their house looked like but they would be at the door welcoming anyone who crossed the threshold. I also know many men who are better hosts than women are! But that's about natural inclinations and "bents". That's not about role.

But then again, a good home is run so that no warning is needed. That's how I try to deal with it here. Yeah, we're not always clean and perfect but I'm about people, not dust bunnies. Stop by my house anytime and I won't look to let anyone have it. It's not just my home but my husband's. Why should he be punished for not "warning" me? That makes NO sense.

 

[Johnv]

Let a woman know well in advance company is coming. She'll thank you and watch her go!... Let a man know he's got company coming and he's stuffing things down into the couch.

The fact that you expect this of her says a lot about you. Sad. Sadder even more than you would disparage other husbands so.

 

[tinytim]

No. Let a woman know well in advance company is coming. She'll thank you and watch her go!

Let her know about 5 minutes before company is supposed to arrive and she'll move faster, but she's gritting her teeth and waiting for the next chance to let you have it.

Let a man know he's got company coming and he's stuffing things down into the couch.

I know what your problem is now, you really do think you're part of the "Q" (too much Star Trek, The Next Generation)

WOW.. Just WOW.. Amazing that this thinking still exists~!

 

[tinytim]

Hmmm - that's quite a bit of stereotyping, isn't it??

I know some women who wouldn't care what their house looked like but they would be at the door welcoming anyone who crossed the threshold. I also know many men who are better hosts than women are! But that's about natural inclinations and "bents". That's not about role.

But then again, a good home is run so that no warning is needed. That's how I try to deal with it here. Yeah, we're not always clean and perfect but I'm about people, not dust bunnies. Stop by my house anytime and I won't look to let anyone have it. It's not just my home but my husband's. Why should he be punished for not "warning" me? That makes NO sense.

Don't you know the wifey is the only one supposed to do the dishes, vacuum, dust, make the beds, laundry...

NO wonder we have big dumb goons that don't know how to cook or clean when their wives die.

This 50s mentality of "Leave it to Beaver".. or "Andy Griffith" really needs to die!...

I'm secure enough in my manhood to split the chores 50/50...
Too bad other men aren't

 

[Johnv]

WOW.. Just WOW.. Amazing that this thinking still exists~!

I'm just dying for PW to chime in on the KJV

 

[pinoybaptist]

Wow, I called some men a lizard and you called sag an ape!

no, no, paul, you got it all wrong.
I'm the ape.
There've been some posters in the past, some still here and some gone, who think I've got a simian brain, so I wanted to make them happy.
you know, love your enemies and all that jazz ?
I love apes, man.
Had a pet monkey once back in me ole country in me ole farm who was better than any guard dog.
I tells ya.
Ain't no one who can just go pick up any of my piglets, or the neighbors'.
He knows each and every other animal around the neighborhood and which one belongs to whom he'd raise a ruckus heard miles around if anyone attempted to steal one of them.