So faith is spirit? This is getting stranger and stranger.Which part of the body is the spirit?
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So faith is spirit? This is getting stranger and stranger.Which part of the body is the spirit?
Two questions, do you ever make a post that addresses the thread, and two do you ever make a comment in a civil manner without an insult added?I grant one must have a reading comprehension level greater than that of a third-grader to effectively interact with me, but I will try again.
Look back at what I said: you'll never get it until you stop thinking of faith as a function: i.e. operation.
Or, were you trying to argue that faith is a body part? Based on the fancies you've asserted over the years, it's impossible to rule that out.
I grant one must have a reading comprehension level greater than that of a third-grader to effectively interact with me, but I will try again.
Look back at what I said: you'll never get it until you stop thinking of faith as a function: i.e. operation.
Or, were you trying to argue that faith is a body part? Based on the fancies you've asserted over the years, it's impossible to rule that out.
Got it. Your is the science fiction view then. Its hardly carnal to believe how the Bible describes faith as coming by hearing, and that by the Word pf God. If anything the mysterious science fiction umbilical cord faith must be the carnal view.
They won't because it simply isn't THERE...There is NO way to assume a genetic passing of Adam's guilt in that passage unless you already pre-suppose it to be true. Because the Scriptures don't (strictly-speaking)....what's the word???...SAY any such thing...Yes, everyone sinned and at a definable point in time, and subsequently they became "sinners"....tell us something we DON'T know:sleep:
They won't because it simply isn't THERE...There is NO way to assume a genetic passing of Adam's guilt in that passage unless you already pre-suppose it to be true. Because the Scriptures don't (strictly-speaking)....what's the word???...SAY any such thing...Yes, everyone sinned and at a definable point in time, and subsequently they became "sinners"....tell us something we DON'T know:sleep:
your problem is that you cant grasp sinning doesn't make you a Sinner---BUT you sin because you are already a SINNER before you even sin--therefore you will sin because that's who you are :thumbsup::thumbsup:
That's why men must be born again :jesus:
I need to clarify: you'll never get it until you stop thinking of faith as a function (i.e. operation) of the brain, or any part of the body.you'll never get it until you stop thinking of faith as a function (i.e. operation)
Always, but like I said, one needs a certain degree of expertise in reading English.Two questions, do you ever make a post that addresses the thread
I tend to answer in the manners shown me, especially when one asserts a way of entering heaven other than through the Door.and two do you ever make a comment in a civil manner without an insult added?
Actually, your study would have brought you to the fact hearing simply means understanding.if you would do a word study on the word HEARING in that verse you would find it not talking about hearing with the physical ear but HEARING with the spiritual ear--Let him that hath an ear to hear---for some did not have a spiritual ear to hear and nonetheless they did not hear :thumbsup::thumbsup:
So basically words do not have meanings, or we can redefine certain phrases to make it fit doctrine. Try replacing 'sinner' with murderer, rapist, homosexual. Your reasoning is the very reasoning used by the homosexual community.your problem is that you cant grasp sinning doesn't make you a Sinner---BUT you sin because you are already a SINNER before you even sin--therefore you will sin because that's who you are :thumbsup::thumbsup:
That's why men must be born again :jesus:
I grant one must have a reading comprehension level greater than that of a third-grader to effectively interact with me, but I will try again.
Look back at what I said: you'll never get it until you stop thinking of faith as a function: i.e. operation.
Or, were you trying to argue that faith is a body part? Based on the fancies you've asserted over the years, it's impossible to rule that out.
I grant one must have a reading comprehension level greater than that of a third-grader to effectively interact with me, but I will try again.
Look back at what I said: you'll never get it until you stop thinking of faith as a function: i.e. operation.
Or, were you trying to argue that faith is a body part? Based on the fancies you've asserted over the years, it's impossible to rule that out.
What ever you do, don't burn out your generator belt thinking how smart you are.
MB
So basically words do not have meanings, or we can redefine certain phrases to make it fit doctrine. Try replacing 'sinner' with murderer, rapist, homosexual. Your reasoning is the very reasoning used by the homosexual community.
Yep, not one of the many various versions of scripture was willing to interpret Romans 3:23 to say all sinned "in Adam" at one point in time as Icon and others insist.
Further, Paul himself refutes this just a little later on in Romans 9:11:
Rom 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth; )
If Paul was attempting to teach that all men sinned in Adam in Romans 3:23, why would Paul contradict this and tell us that Esau and Jacob had done no evil while they were alive in their mother's womb? If Romans 3:23 is truly teaching all men have sinned in Adam, then Esau and Jacob would be guilty (or at least a partaker) in this sin. Paul refutes and contradicts this view saying they had not done any evil.
So, this is just an invention of man. Of course Icon will hold to it, because without Original Sin Calvinism doesn't have a leg to stand on. He can't have that.