Are miracles always instantaneous?

[rlvaughn]

What is a coincidence?

 

[John of Japan]

Well you don't like it how God speaks to His children and makes new ones through a book made with paper and ink is ironic coming from a man of your profession.

The NT teaches exactly what miracles are. Physical actions humans are capable of are not miracles, Biblically speaking.

God speaks to us through His Word, which was miraculously given by inspiration. When the Holy Spirit uses the Word of God to speak to a human heart about salvation, that is a miracle, because a human being cannot bring conviction to the heart of another human. Is that what you are saying?

 

[1689Dave]

What is a coincidence?

co·in·ci·dence
/kōˈinsədəns/
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noun

1. 1.
   a remarkable concurrence of events or circumstances without apparent causal connection.
   "they met by coincidence"
   
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   accident
   
   chance
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   serendipity
   
   fate
   
   a twist of fate
   destiny
   
   fortuity
   
   fortune
   
   providence
   
   freak
   
   hazard
   
   a piece of good fortune
   (a bit of) luck
   (a bit of) good luck
   a fluke
   a happy chance
   happenstance
   
   
   
2. 2.
   correspondence in nature or in time of occurrence.

 

[rlvaughn]

co·in·ci·dence
/kōˈinsədəns/
Learn to pronounce
noun
1.
a remarkable concurrence of events or circumstances without apparent causal connection.
"they met by coincidence"
Similar:
accident
chance
by chance" data-hw="chance" data-lb="" data-tae="true" data-te="false" data-tl="en-US" data-tldf="" data-url="/search?rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS806US806&sxsrf=ALeKk01PzAU5YHvkUE0EgwuaQxIj9PsxEQ:1622121683718&q=define+chance&forcedict=chance&dictcorpus=en-US">
serendipity
fate
a twist of fate
destiny
fortuity
fortune
providence
freak
hazard
a piece of good fortune
(a bit of) luck
(a bit of) good luck
a fluke
a happy chance
happenstance
2.
correspondence in nature or in time of occurrence.

Thanks. So what is it you believe or are claiming "is just a coincidence"?

Not at all. It's just a coincidence.

 

[1689Dave]

Thanks. So what is it you believe or are claiming "is just a coincidence"?

Do you think creation is a miracle?

 

[rlvaughn]

Do you think creation is a coincidence?

 

[1689Dave]

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Do you think creation is a coincidence?

Many do thinking God foresaw this or that beyond his control and reacted to it coincidentally. But He created all, including all that tomorrow encompasses right down to your very thoughts.

 

[rlvaughn]

Many do thinking God foresaw this or that beyond his control and reacted to it coincidentally.

Just wondered, since you brought it up.

 

[Yeshua1]

Not a direct quote from John, but that has to be close to my own definition. That's why I don't care t o hear people calling a lot of things "miracles"... recovering quickly from the flu, getting a needed job with better than expected pay and benefits, finding out one has just enough money in the bank to go on an upcoming mission trip.... these kind of things are not at all outside natural laws and processes.

I would tend to see those things more under providence of God!

 

[Yeshua1]

If creation is not a miracle, then do you agree with the atheists?

Paul expanded our knowledge so that God being the supernatural cause of all, all becomes a supernatural effect of his causing it.

Are the natural laws God designed into His creation all miracles then?

 

[1689Dave]

Just wondered, since you brought it up.

I guess since I began studying Paul, I see all of creation as a miracle just as I see the outstanding miracles of Christ and the Apostles as miracles. Even the "mundane " daily things we call the natural order.

 

[Yeshua1]

I guess since I began studying Paul, I see all of creation as a miracle just as I see the outstanding miracles of Christ and the Apostles as miracles. Even the "mundane " daily things we call the natural order.

Miracles done by the Lord Jesus and his Apostles are not able to be replicated, so would they not be supernatural in nature, unlike natural processes?

 

[SGO]

The NT teaches exactly what miracles are. Physical actions humans are capable of are not miracles, Biblically speaking.

God speaks to us through His Word, which was miraculously given by inspiration.

"God speaks to us through his word" is NOT a miracle says a bible translator.

Did I get that wrong too?

 

[Alcott]

I would tend to see those things more under providence of God!

But under his natural laws and processes. The subject here is not his providence-- air, water, trees, other people.... but miracles, in which he allows his natural laws and processes to be temporarily suspended.

 

[Yeshua1]

But under his natural laws and processes. The subject here is not his providence-- air, water, trees, other people.... but miracles, in which he allows his natural laws and processes to be temporarily suspended.

Yes, miracles are events done by God Himself, as either He bypassed or suspended natural processes!

 

[SGO]

"Miraculous proofreading"

 

[John of Japan]

"God speaks to us through his word" is NOT a miracle says a bible translator.

Did I get that wrong too?

You have not accurately characterized my position.

What you actually seem to have wrong is the definition of the word "miracle." Please tell me what definition you are going on. My definition is based on how the words translated "miracle" are used in the NT. I'm sure you want to go by the Bible usage of "miracle" don't you?

 

[SGO]

You have not accurately characterized my position.

What you actually seem to have wrong is the definition of the word "miracle." Please tell me what definition you are going on. My definition is based on how the words translated "miracle" are used in the NT. I'm sure you want to go by the Bible usage of "miracle" don't you?

"Miraculous proofreading"

 

[John of Japan]

"Miraculous proofreading"

I have no idea what you mean by this.

But evidently then you don't have a definition, right?

 

[SGO]

I have no idea what you mean by this.

But evidently then you don't have a definition, right?

The quote is yours.

"Miraculous proofreading."