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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by rlvaughn, May 23, 2021.

  1. rlvaughn

    rlvaughn Well-Known Member
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    What is a coincidence?
     
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    The NT teaches exactly what miracles are. Physical actions humans are capable of are not miracles, Biblically speaking.

    God speaks to us through His Word, which was miraculously given by inspiration. When the Holy Spirit uses the Word of God to speak to a human heart about salvation, that is a miracle, because a human being cannot bring conviction to the heart of another human. Is that what you are saying?
     
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    co·in·ci·dence
    /kōˈinsədəns/
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    noun
    1. 1.
      a remarkable concurrence of events or circumstances without apparent causal connection.
      "they met by coincidence"

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    2. 2.
      correspondence in nature or in time of occurrence.
     
  4. rlvaughn

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    Thanks. So what is it you believe or are claiming "is just a coincidence"?
     
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    Do you think creation is a miracle?
     
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    Do you think creation is a coincidence?
     
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    Many do thinking God foresaw this or that beyond his control and reacted to it coincidentally. But He created all, including all that tomorrow encompasses right down to your very thoughts.
     
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    Just wondered, since you brought it up.
     
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    I would tend to see those things more under providence of God!
     
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    Are the natural laws God designed into His creation all miracles then?
     
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    I guess since I began studying Paul, I see all of creation as a miracle just as I see the outstanding miracles of Christ and the Apostles as miracles. Even the "mundane " daily things we call the natural order.
     
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    Miracles done by the Lord Jesus and his Apostles are not able to be replicated, so would they not be supernatural in nature, unlike natural processes?
     
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    "God speaks to us through his word" is NOT a miracle says a bible translator.

    Did I get that wrong too?
     
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    But under his natural laws and processes. The subject here is not his providence-- air, water, trees, other people.... but miracles, in which he allows his natural laws and processes to be temporarily suspended.
     
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    Yes, miracles are events done by God Himself, as either He bypassed or suspended natural processes!
     
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    "Miraculous proofreading"
     
  17. John of Japan

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    You have not accurately characterized my position.

    What you actually seem to have wrong is the definition of the word "miracle." Please tell me what definition you are going on. My definition is based on how the words translated "miracle" are used in the NT. I'm sure you want to go by the Bible usage of "miracle" don't you?
     
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    "Miraculous proofreading"
     
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    John of Japan Well-Known Member
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    I have no idea what you mean by this.

    But evidently then you don't have a definition, right?
     
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    The quote is yours.

    "Miraculous proofreading."
     
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