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Your comment is very ethnicist. I don't hold my position on this based on ethnicity, but rather principles.
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Ariz. may require hospitals to check citizenship
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Your comment is very ethnicist. I don't hold my position on this based on ethnicity, but rather principles.
I wasn't commenting on your position, but rather Ruiz's.
Only if one is looking for a reason to be offended.
That is a requirement of all citizens except, in some states, Pastors and I explained the difference in an earlier post. To put immigration to the level of murder or abuse is disgusting in my opinion.
Gosh, you don't have a lot of faith in the doctors of our country. We are talking about the reporting of gunshot wounds, not murders.
Also, we aren't putting immigration on the level of murder or abuse of children. There are obvious differences in the treatment of each type of case. It just so happens that there is a common factor (Hospitals being required to report it), but that doesn't put them on the same level. If you want to attempt that argument you may, but I'll simply shoot it down by showing that murderers and petty thieves both have mugshots taken. That doesn't put them on the same level. It simply means that some parts of the process are common.
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Murder and petty theft are both crimes; being an illegal alien isn't.
Did you happen to catch the word illegal? Then there is nothing to worry about is there.
Being a murderer and being a thief aren't crimes either. It's the act of murder that is the crime. Simply walking around after the murder is not a crime (even though you are a murderer).
The same with illegal aliens. The act of crossing the border is a crime. The crime, like the murder, needs to be punished.
Of course, you also fail to mention that it is a crime to simply be walking around if you have already been deported once and return to this country.
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Illegal entry is a crime. An illegal alien who enters and overstays his visa isn't a criminal.
Laws Regarding a Visa Overstay
If you overstay your visa and remain in the US beyond the dates given by the Customs and Border Patrol agent who processed your initial visa when you entered the US, your visa is considered by the US customs as void as of the date that you were scheduled to leave. Unless you have applied for an extension or otherwise begun the legal process of having your visa continued, you will be in violation of US immigration law and you are subject to potential sanctions or deportation if you stay in the country after the expiration date of your visa. It is important to note that if you wish to overstay your initial visa, you must apply prior to your visa expiring – you cannot allow it to expire and then file a continuation.
http://www.usimmigrationlawyers.com...d-tourist-visa-should-i-leave-my-status-not-l
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“A man was going down from Flagstaff to Phoneix, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him, took all his money and went away, leaving him half dead.
A Baptist preacher happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side thinking to himself, "He looks foreign ... probably an illegal alien. And I don't have time to stop. I have to get to the political action meeting".
So too, a Baptist deacon, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side for them same reasons as the preacher.
But an atheist, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man in his own automobile, brought him to a doctor’s clinic and took care of him. The next day he took out ten thousand dollars and gave them to the doctor. "Look after him," he said, "and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have."
“Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”
A Baptist preacher happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side thinking to himself, "He looks foreign ... probably an illegal alien. And I don't have time to stop. I have to get to the political action meeting".
So too, a Baptist deacon, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side for them same reasons as the preacher.
But an atheist, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man in his own automobile, brought him to a doctor’s clinic and took care of him. The next day he took out ten thousand dollars and gave them to the doctor. "Look after him," he said, "and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have."
“Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”
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Convert? :smilewinkgrin:
No, never. Why do you not take Christ's teaching on how to treat others seriously and apply them to your life?
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Her's a flash for you.
Your benevolent athiest will not be part of God's kingdom. He'll go straight to hell.
It was a bad example to use to make whatever point it is you were trying to make.
No flash there brother. You say you trust Jesus with all your heart, etc. Why do you not apply his teaching in your life in the way you treat and post about others? It was a bad example only in it stepped hard on some toes on the board.
Remember, Jesus was very kind to sinners, but came down very hard on the self-righteous fundamentalists of his day. They view of others was not kind. There is a lesson there about Christ for all of us.
The proposed Arizona will never meet the criteria of being Christ-like.
Don't the rest of you know that someone is morally superior to you because he can tell us about our supposed lack of compassion. If he really cared he would sell his computer and send the proceeds to some Arizona hospital to help cover the cost of providing medical care for illegal immigrants. Instead, he hypocritically preaches to us trying to remove the supposed speck from our eye while being careful not to knock his computer screen over with the beam sticking out of his.
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No, you might waste the money. If I lived near you and knew you had a need I would help.
Rather off topic I'd say.
The Arizona proposed law is not of Christ. It is of revengeful, hardhearted man inspired dislike. There is no Christ-like love in the proposal.
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