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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Ed Edwards, Dec 12, 2007.

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  1. Jarthur001

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    When God wrote His Holy Word, when do you think God wanted mankind to think he predestined them? In other words....if God wanted for man to believe it was when they believed, would God use the word "fore" meaning before hand? If God wanted to just say believers were destined to Heaven...could He not have said that? Why do you think God wanted us to know it was "pre"...or before?
     
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    Do you believe this verse list the order of events that happen to the believer?
     
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    Yes, with the glorification already to the inward man and in the resurrection for the outward man or fleshly man, with God seeing all of it now as we speak. The justification is by the blood of Jesus also to the inward man. I guess I would say it is all to the inward man James. The outward man becomes a crucified man.

    BBob,
     
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    As I said He sees all now, so He could use fore, but would not change anything with us, because He is not bound by time, so fore is now to Him, as is end.

    BBob,
     
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    If I were part of the elected, my name was written in the book before I was actually saved, right? So, explain to me again your point?
     
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    Very good PK..........

    BBob,
     
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    what book?
     
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    And I may add....

    Election is not dales point...its Gods work. Do you believe His word, or find need to change it?
     
    #90 Jarthur001, Dec 25, 2007
  11. PK

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    I Do!

    God by His foreknowledge has predestinated all who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ 'to be conformed to the image of His Son'. Predestination is never to Heaven or Hell but always to special privileges in and with Christ.
     
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    If so..

    What do you fell "called" means?
     
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    Rev. 13:8 and 17:8
     
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    maybe so Bob...

    I'm about done tonight anyway. I need to do some Bible study.

    Peace to you and yours Bob.

    Good night...James
     
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    oops...sorry...didn't see this

    Yes..I know of the passage. I want you to say the name of the book.

    Thanks...

    In Christ...James

    I'm off for now..see ya in the morn.
     
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    And a Merry Christmas to all & a good night!
     
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    My honest answer James is like when I was praying for forgiveness of my sins and I believe in a travail from nature to Grace. In other words I believe there is a time of praying and waiting for to hear God say in His way of talking to us, your sins which are many, I freely forgive, come on home son.

    Now there is a drawing to all men. But this call out of the world, of which He said I have chosen you out of the world, is the call it is talking about here. We can only believe, repent but it take God to do the saving and if he never calls, we have went to far in sin and been turn over to a reprovate mind, to believe a lie and be damned.

    I suppose I opened a box here, that will take me a while to defend with scripture, but its what I believe. I can't stand this "sinners prayer" thing for salvation.

    BBob,
     
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    Merry Christmas to you also Ed and your family.

    BBob,
     
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    Explain these passages:

    Exodus 32:33- And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.

    Psalm 69:28- Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.

    Rev 22:19 -And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.

    I always thought predestination was a sure thing? Sleep well!
     
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