Calvinism and Arminianism foreknowledge compared with respect to time

Author of sin?

Gordon Clark stated that "God's causing a man to sin is not sin. There is no law, superior to God, which forbids him to decree sinful acts. Sin presupposes a law, for sin is lawlessness." Clark explained that "God is above law" because "the laws that God imposes on men do not apply to the divine nature."

 

So are you making the argument truth does not need God to be true?

 

Mural Law reflects the nature of God though!

 

It does not. Good people don't need a law. Law reflects the opposite of good.

 

God upholds His Moral law!

 

Is that a problem? For instance, is 2+2=4 a true statement in an atheist universe, assuming one could exist? Of course it is. Non moral concepts don’t require a moral arbiter to be true.

Another way to look at it is to ask, now back within a Christian universe, is a murderer guilty without a trial? Of course he is, but he might not be punished justly.

 

Gordon Clark just made God the author of sin in that statement. He’s a consistent Calvinist, but he’s not consistent with most Calvinistic confessions, which are internally inconsistent on this point. I applaud him for his consistency, while I reject his theology.

 

Oh, there is a problem. The denial of the only true God. The denial that God is God. God Himself is the fundamental self evident truth by which all other self eveident truths are self evident. God is the self existent one in which all caused reality has its existence. The true meaning of God's Name of the Hebrew. Exodous 3:14-15. Hear the Proverb, Proverbs 21:30, "There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the LORD." The Apostle Paul, Acts of the Apostles 17:28, "For in Him we live, and move, and have our being; . . ." That is everyone and also everything. see Colossians 1:16-17. John 1:3

 

I assume this rather substantial red herring is because you don’t have any answer to my original question??

 

So how do you answer the problem of evil?

 

The Ten Commandments tell bad people to do nothing. Don't steal, murder, etc. How can that be a challenge to good people? Moral law would force you to love others as your self which none can do but Christ.

 

The Moral Law of God shows to us His perfection!

 

That’s a different thread topic, and “evil” is too broad: Isaiah 45:7 (KJV) I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].
But in general, sin is something other entities do against God’s will. God neither tempts nor forces anyone to commit sin. Clark is incorrect.

 

Everything is God's will or he's not God.

 

It's not moral and shows human sin only. It doesn't spell out what they should do because they can't.

 

We as believers still obligated to keep His Moral Law!

 

The new birth is the law written in the heart. We are good by nature.

 

Good people don't need law. Only the wicked.

 

Then “sin” doesn’t exist, and there’s nothing we need to be saved from. Why would God’s son have to die to save us from doing God’s will?

 

God created sin and sinner alike. And he spared those he chose in Christ who bore their penalty the others still must bear.