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And reformed folks get the context wrong just as they do with John 15:16. In the acts passage with issue of the day was were Gentiles also appointed to receive salvation just as the Jews were. The Jews believed that only they were appointed to salvation. In Acts 13 many Gentiles came to the faith. It is being pointed out that Gentiles also are grafted in to be saved. Trying to make this passage about individualistic salvation is incorrect.

 

If they believe then He saves,{free will} not before they believe as calvinists would have. {no free will}

 

So you don't believe the DoG? So what do you believe because you seem to deny the bible.

 

Then you just misread the bible text. But as always you claim your calvinist view has to be correct because you say it is. Trust scripture not your misreading of it.

 

Why is there a justice problem?

 

John Piper, in a sermon on 1 Peter chapter one, uses the raising of Lazarus from the dead as his illustration.
Jesus was the cause agent of Lazarus being brought to life. Jesus spoke and commanded "Lazarus come forth." This is the action of God.
The effect of that command is that Lazarus physically got up and walked out of that tomb. Lazarus did not make himself alive, but he sure did walk out of that tomb. God caused. Lazarus walked. Cause and effect.

When the word of God is preached, Jesus calls to particular persons in the audience and they are brought to life by that personal command of Christ. The effect is that they walk out of their death, into newness of life in Christ Jesus.

 

You treat Jesus as if he were a car salesman. "Step right up folks, I have a deal for you. All ya gotta do is follow these steps and ya get yourself some eternal life!!! Now, which one of ya's are gonna take me up on this great deal?"

Silverhair, any discerning person can see your soteriology is all messed up and is a veiled humanism in disguise.

 

Try John Owen's "The Death of Death in the Death of Christ." A standard work against any general redemption by the atonement of Christ.

 

I consider it's rejection making it impossible for any lost person to know Christ died for any lost persons.

 

Let's try the Bible, a standard work where either general redemption is expressed or it isn't expressed.
Where is the idea that men are" generally" redeemed found in the Bible?

 

Then you will have yo change what you say and hold to as that is what is main stream calvinism.

 

They have the option of receiving the free gift unlike your theology where it is thrust upon like it or not.

 

Then you did not read the post.

 

Right, I do not veil the fact that calvinism is a errant theology.