Featured Can The Case Be Made That Christ Died For All?

". . . Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; . . ." Yet without the truth of the general redemption, your view remains an uncertain gospel for those to choose to believe.

 

Two groups here:
1] the Disciples these alone Joh_17:9
2] converts those who will believe Joh_17:20
2a] the World world may believe Joh_17:21

Further on we see that the world of Joh_17:21 is the same as "The world has not known You" Joh_17:25 referring to the Father.

John further expands on this in
1Jn_2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

The offer of salvation is for all, salvation is for those that freely trust in Christ Jesus.
Act_15:11 "But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they also are."
Act_16:31 They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household."
Rom_10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;

 

Then please explain to us how the DoG , that you hold to, does not limit God. You must hold to a Limited Atonement and yet God says He desires all to be saved. Remember your theology says only a select group were chosen, that is limiting who can be saved.

Any that were not in that group are damned just because they are not in that group. God could save all people but your theology says He can not.

Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace those come from your theology not the bible.

I am not questioning your faith in Christ Jesus, I am questioning the calvinism that you hold to.

 

Not from the bible, unless you misread the text.

 

You can hold to the DoG or the bible but not both.

 

Then answer how your DoG does not contradict the scriptures I gave you.

 

How does the hearers to know Christ died for them? With the denial that Christ died for them it is an uncertainty.

 

Not true. Luke 8:13, ". . . They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away. . . ."

 

So you do not believe parable of the sower represents four conditions of hearers of the gospel? What about not doing the will of God in Matthew 7:21-23? Or the gospel being hidden to the lost in 2 Corinthians 4:3-4?