Yes. It is an illustration.
You do not believe that God is propiated. You use the word, but what you mean is God's wrath was exercised against sin (the opposite of His wrath being propiated).
Here are ways you deny God's words by using your philosophy to change meaning.
Propitiation - used as a translation 3 times to point ro Christ AS the Propitiation.
Propitiation is something that propitiates. It is used once as "propitiates" speaking 9f Jesus as the High Priest intercepting for believers if they sin.
It is reconciling two parties, focusing on the offended.
But you reject that God's wrath and punishment can actually be propitiated. Instead you believe God's wrath and punishment must be exercised (either on sins laid on Christ or on the sinner).
Forgiveness- you reject that God is even able to forgive sins. Instead your philosophy teaches you that God must punish sins and to allow the guilty to go free He must punish those sins on somebody else. Forgiveness, to you, is impossible. God punishes the innocent sp that the guilty can escape punishment. That is not forgiveness.
Forsaken - Psalm 22 deals with God's righteousness servant suffering under evil
. The psalm begins with the servant asking why he is forsaken, continues with him trusting God will never abandon him as God never abandoned his forefathers through their suffering, and concludes with God delivering the servant not from suffering but through suffering. He was forsaken to suffer and die but God never abandoned him
Your philosophy teaches you that God separated from Jesus on the cross, that the relationship ("I and My Father are One") ceased on the cross.
Ypir faith is not only foreign to God's words, it also stands in opposition to God's Word. It is anti-Christian
I know you jave been carried away from the faith by your philosophy. That is what often happens when men determine to lean on their own understanding rather than every word that comes from God
So I do not post for your benefit
I post for others to evaluate your teachings against "what is written" (every word that comes from God) so they, unlike you, may be delivered from the deception that has carried you away
The wrath of God is piled up towards ALL until either they pay for it directly themselves, or someone else willing to bear it
God cannot just forgive sins without there be a basis for it, as Jesus atonement provides for that very basis, NOT sinner repenting
Jesus quoted that messianic Psalm as the One who endured that very act of seperation for our sake, as THAT was ewhat he dreaded the most about taking upon Himself our die wrath, that when he was sin bearing, woudl face seperation as every lost sinner in hell will have to endure
We stand in the line of the reformers and fellow Baptists who for centuries found delight in psa, as that alone grants us assurance of forgiveness of our sins
And ask yourself this, should fellow Christians be belittling others here?
@Martin Marprelate
The question for you is why you deny that Jesus is the propitiation for sin, that God set Him forth as a Propitiation in His blood.
You do not believe that God's wrath or punishment even CAN BE propiated.
Instead you believe that our sins were transferred to Christ and punished there. Thar IS NOT sins propitiated (by the very definition of the word).
God's wrath cannot be propiated and expressed. It is one or the other.
God cannot punish sins and still forgive thise sins once punished.
Stop riding the fence eith your "double-speak".
The wrath of God is appeased/satisfied thru the shed blood of Jesus upon that Cross, as we who are the saved in Him do a transaction with Him at that Cross, as he received my earned and due wrath and judgement, while in exghange I receive His sinless Righteous to to keeping fully the Law of God
@Martin Marprelate
The question for you is why you deny that Jesus is the propitiation for sin, that God set Him forth as a Propitiation in His blood.
You do not believe that God's wrath or punishment even CAN BE propiated.
Instead you believe that our sins were transferred to Christ and punished there. Thar IS NOT sins propitiated (by the very definition of the word).
God's wrath cannot be propiated and expressed. It is one or the other.
God cannot punish sins and still forgive thise sins once punished.
Stop riding the fence eith your "double-speak".
The act you are describing is the laying on of hands in ancient Israelite sacrificial rituals, where a worshiper would place their hand on the head of a sacrificial animal, like a sheep or goat. This ritual symbolized the transfer of sins from the person to the animal, which was seen as a substitute that would die in their place.
- Symbolism:
The gesture signified a confession of sin and an acceptance of the animal as a substitutionary atonement for the sin. It showed the worshiper's identification with the sacrifice and their dependence on it to cover their guilt.
- Sin Offering:
This was a central part of the sin offering described in the Book of Leviticus. By pressing their hand on the animal's head, the individual was, in a symbolic sense, "leaning" or "pressing" their guilt onto the victim.
- Foreshadowing the future:
This Old Testament practice is understood by some Christians to foreshadow the work of Jesus Christ, who is described as the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world by bearing them on the cross.
