Bill Clinton has. And, he's a Southern Baptist, as is Al Gore.Have Bill and Hillary Clinton or Ted Kennedy openly proclaimed their faith in Jesus Christ as Savior?
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Bill Clinton has. And, he's a Southern Baptist, as is Al Gore.Have Bill and Hillary Clinton or Ted Kennedy openly proclaimed their faith in Jesus Christ as Savior?
You have to consider the source!Originally posted by JGrubbs:
So you consider posting a quote of Bush cursing like a sailor to be equal with hating him??![]()
Don't be bad mouthing the sailors!Originally posted by JGrubbs:
So you consider posting a quote of Bush cursing like a sailor to be equal with hating him??![]()
Have you heard him profess his faith in Jesus Christ as his Savior?Originally posted by Baptist in Richmond:
I have seen Al Gore profess to be a Southern Baptist.....
http://www.cwfa.org/articles/6325/CWA/freedom/I researched the Presidential Documents—the official collection of every public presidential statement. An examination of the mentions of Jesus Christ by George W. Bush and Bill Clinton showed that through 2003, Bush cited Jesus, or Jesus Christ, or Christ in 14 separate statements, compared to 41 by Clinton during his eight years in office. On average, Clinton mentioned Christ in 5.1 statements per year, which exceeded Bush’s 4.7.
Bush’s biggest year was 2001, when he mentioned Christ in seven statements. This was the year of September 11; he was especially introspective, and often looked upward for strength. In 2002, he cited Christ in five statements. Most interesting, in all of 2003, the Presidential Documents displayed only two statements in which Bush mentioned his Savior: the Easter and Christmas messages. It may be reasonable to conclude that the hostile press reaction to Bush’s mention of Jesus has pressured him into silence.
Such pressure was never placed on Bush’s Democratic predecessor. President Bill Clinton’s top year for Christ remarks was 1996—the year of his reelection campaign—when he spoke of Christ in nine separate statements. Clinton mentioned Christ almost twice as much in election years.
In addition, the Presidential Documents list only three incidences of Bush speaking in a church through his first three years. By contrast, Clinton spoke in churches 21 times, with over half in election years. And often what he said and did in these churches was blatantly partisan, from identifying New York’s Democratic Gov. Mario Cuomo as a “prophet” to instructing worshippers to go vote. No politician in modern times mixed politics and religion with complete impunity to the extent Bill Clinton did. Here is a mere sample:
“By the grace of God and your help, last year I was elected President.” Clinton, Church of God in Christ, Memphis, Tennessee, November 1993.
“Our ministry is to do the work of God here on Earth.” Clinton to a church in Temple Hills, Maryland, August 1994.
“God’s work must be our own. And there are many questions before us now in this last presidential election of the 20th century.” Clinton to a church in Newark, New Jersey, October 1996.
“The Scripture says, ‘While we have time, let us do good unto all men.’ And a week from Tuesday, it will be time for us to vote.” Clinton, Alfred Street Baptist Church, Alexandria, Virginia, October 29, 2000.
“But I am pleading with you. … I have done everything I know to do. … [But] you have to show. So talk to your friends, talk to your neighbors, talk to your family members, talk to your co-workers, and make sure nobody takes a pass on November 7th.” Clinton, Shiloh Baptist Church, Washington, D.C., October 29, 2000.
SourceAs the president, a Southern Baptist, prepared to break bread with faith leaders, his home church in Little Rock was being urged by two Southern Baptist leaders to take some sort of disciplinary action against him for his behavior.
''I would just say the church cannot be silent. That would be cowardice,'' R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, said during a news conference Thursday in Louisville, Ky.
Paige Patterson, president of the Southern Baptist Convention, agreed that Immanuel Baptist Church should exercise the seldom-used option. But Timothy George, dean of Beeson Divinity School at Samford University in Birmingham, Ala., said it would be unusual for a church to take such an action.
''You do hear of it every now and then, but it's pretty rare,'' George said.
Friday's breakfast offered Clinton another opportunity to seek forgiveness from an understanding audience for lying about his relationship with Lewinsky, a former White House intern. However, Clinton's aides held no illusions that it would be an easy sell for the president.
Some ministers, however, said they are more inclined to measure Clinton's worth by the totality of his actions, rather than one moral flaw.
''It's so sickening to me to see all this second-guessing and should-have, could-have, ought-to-have analysis from people who certainly haven't done any better if you look at their lives,'' said the Rev. James Dunn, director of the Washington-based Baptist Joint Committee.
Atif Harden, executive director of the American Muslim Council, said while Clinton has ''obviously slipped'' morally, it is up to the religious community to pull the nation toward forgiveness. His advice to Clinton was ''to continue to be honest with us, and pray.''
''Forgiveness is a big part of our faith, and tolerance,'' Harden said. ''The president has asked God to forgive him. That will be God's decision. I personally am prepared to forgive him.''