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Confession for Baptist’s and Protestants in general

Cathode

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I'm sure you know the RCC is a Gentile Church, but did you know those ceremonies in the Old Covenant were never given to the Gentiles.


“My name will be great among the Gentiles, from where the sun rises to where it sets. In every place incense and pure offerings will be brought to me, because my name will be great among the Gentiles,” says the LORD Almighty.”

You guys don’t use incense do you.
 
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Charlie24

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“My name will be great among the Gentiles, from where the sun rises to where it sets. In every place incense and pure offerings will be brought to me, because my name will be great among the Gentiles,” says the LORD Almighty.

Malachi was prophesying, and the "incense and pure offerings" are prayers and praise to the Lord for His offering of Himself to man.

None, I repeat none of the Old Covenant ceremonies in any way were given to the Gentiles.

But the RCC has and will continue to commit blasphemy before God in the act.
 

Charlie24

Well-Known Member
Malachi was prophesying, and the "incense and pure offerings" are prayers and praise to the Lord for His offering of Himself to man.

None, I repeat none of the Old Covenant ceremonies in any way were given to the Gentiles.

But the RCC has and will continue to commit blasphemy before God in the act.

Rev. 5:8

"And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints."
 

Cathode

Well-Known Member
Rev. 5:8

"And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints."

We use incense as a sign of our prayer intentions. Incense is offered with our solemn prayers.
 

Charlie24

Well-Known Member
We use incense as a sign of our prayer intentions. Incense is offered with our solemn prayers.

It is unbiblical and you should stop doing it. The prayers of the saints are the sweet savor the Lord desires.

Come into the New Covenant, worship Him in Spirit and Truth.
 

Charlie24

Well-Known Member
Whatever you want to do, Cathode! We will stand before God and the true intents of ours hearts will be revealed.

Every day of my life in the Lord is a new day, and every new day I ask the Lord, what will you have me do today to bring praise and honor to You?

I can't do it lighting candles around statues and going into a trance of gibberish.

I do it by keeping myself close to Him through prayer and reading His Word.

Looking for the opportunity He gives me at any given time to bring praise and honor to Him.

I get caught up in life just as everyone else, but He has my heart, and that's where He goes to reach me.
 

Cathode

Well-Known Member
Every day of my life in the Lord is a new day, and every new day I ask the Lord, what will you have me do today to bring praise and honor to You?

I can't do it lighting candles around statues and going into a trance of gibberish.

I do it by keeping myself close to Him through prayer and reading His Word.

Looking for the opportunity He gives me at any given time to bring praise and honor to Him.

I get caught up in life just as everyone else, but He has my heart, and that's where He goes to reach me.

All you a doing is displaying your massive ignorance of Catholicism and the Early Christians.
 

Charlie24

Well-Known Member
All you a doing is displaying your massive ignorance of Catholicism and the Early Christians.

What I'm doing is that which the Lord has provided for me by fulfilling the Old Testament Law and bringing me into a New Covenant with Him.

All of the Laws and ceremonies He has fulfilled for me to be able to have a personal relationship with Him.

I can come before the Throne of God with my requests that the people before could not do under the Law.

They had to go through a mediator, Moses, I have direct access, all provided by Christ.

I don't need to be a part of already fulfilled ceremonies and priests to mediate for me.

I'll put it nicely and say, get yourself out of the past and into a relationship with Christ!

Christ has come and fulfilled all that the Law represented in Him, it's time to move on!
 

Ben1445

Active Member
The earth has given way under Protestantism since it’s inception, it has cascaded into every conflicting interpretation and doctrine of error.

You should read Peter first about Paul’s writings, heed his warning.
I don’t have trouble reading and understanding Hebrews. I don’t have need that someone teach me the first things. By reason of use I am exercised to eat the meat. I can get beyond the basics. Peter’s warning is for those who pervert the Scripture. I don’t change the meanings of Scripture to match my beliefs. I believe what Scripture says. When it says that we are kings and priests, I believe it.

Rev. 5:9-10
And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

I don’t twist a verse out of context to say that only some are kings and others priests.

Revelation 1:6
And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

We are heirs with Him.

Romans 8:17
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

Hebrews 10:19-22
Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; And having an high priest over the house of God; Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

Since we have boldness to enter into the holiest, and since we are clearly not the High Priest, we must be priests, each of us.

1 Corinthians 6:19
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
And since my body is the temple, and since it is clear to me that no other earthly priest is able, or welcome to enter this temple, I must be the priest of this temple under Jesus Christ, who is my High Priest. And since He has removed the veil, I am told to come to God boldly by the blood of Christ. It is a new and living way. It is nothing like the old way when a person had to find a different person, a priest ordained by the law of a carnal commandment, to offer sacrifices in the temple for himself.
Jesus paid for my sin.

Hebrews 10:16-18
This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

Since there is no more offering for sin, why does someone else offer absolution? Who can forgive sins but God only? Are you claiming that there are other Christs who are able to forgive sins? You would not call them that. But if they can forgive sins then they are the Messiah. They are clearly not the Messiah, the Christ, so it follows that they cannot forgive sins.
The only confession that is required of us to each other is told to us in James. We confess our trespasses against each other to each other. Why should I involve an unrelated party in a problem with another person? It’s not even biblical wisdom.
And the seal of the confessional is not a doctrine in Scripture either. It is a man made ordinance. With man made laws.
 

Ben1445

Active Member
“My name will be great among the Gentiles, from where the sun rises to where it sets. In every place incense and pure offerings will be brought to me, because my name will be great among the Gentiles,” says the LORD Almighty.”

You guys don’t use incense do you.
What do you use for pure offerings?
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
No, public confession cleared the conscience, which is the forgiveness of sin.

“Confess your sins in church, and do not go up to your prayer with an evil conscience. This is the way of life. . . . On the Lord’s Day gather together, break bread, and give thanks, after confessing your transgressions so that your sacrifice may be pure” (Didache 4:14, 14:1 [A.D. 70]).

“You shall confess your sins. You shall not go to prayer with an evil conscience. This is the way of light” (Letter of Barnabas 19 [A.D. 74]).

Confession was public in Church before the assembly and Elders, and the Bishop, who gave absolution. This forgave sin and cleared the conscience.
Only God can forgive our sins, only Jesus is the Mediator and High Priest
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
Your theology is founded on denials. The denial of scriptural examples, and the denial of the Early Christian Fathers and Bishops, even the Apostolic Fathers who knew the Apostles personally.

Read the Fathers and they will give you the authentic understanding of Scripture and authentic Christian Doctrines.

Unfortunately you have been indoctrinated in the new novel heresies of the Protestant rebellion, which is a dogs breakfast of conflicting doctrines and erroneous interpretations itself.

The Fathers teach authentic Christianity.
There was NO catholic church of Rome until the Papacy was founded in 5-6 century
 

Cathode

Well-Known Member
What do you use for pure offerings?

“Hence God speaks by the mouth of Malachi, one of the twelve [prophets], as I said before, about the sacrifices at that time presented by you: 'I have no pleasure in you, saith the Lord; and I will not accept your sacrifices at your hands: for, from the rising of the sun unto the going down of the same, My name has been glorified among the Gentiles, and in every place incense is offered to My name, and a pure offering: for My name is great among the Gentiles, saith the Lord: but ye profane it.' He then speaks of those Gentiles, namely us, who in every place offer sacrifices to Him, i.e., the bread of the Eucharist, and also the cup of the Eucharist, affirming both that we glorify His name, and that you profane” Justin Martyr Dia Trypho the Jew 155 Ad
 
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