Featured Did Jesus Really Die For Judas?

bump... @SavedByGrace
You chose not to respond. Perhaps you missed it.

 

See the link in # 122

 

I did, you just gave a link that never answers the question.
Pony up and actually write up your response in this thread.
I state again:

Why then are you making exceptions?
You have two exceptions.
1) Not repenting
2) Not believing

For those two sins you declare that Jesus blood is not effective. "Those who refuse will be damned" is your words. You make exceptions and thus you make your own assertion false.

 

Jesus says in Mark 1.15 to REPENT and BELIEVE. two conditions

 

Do you think that you know everything? Or are you afraid to read the link?

 

Ham's wife wasn't human? What kinda nonsense is that??????????????????????????????????

 

she was a nephilim. Not 100% human as was Noah and the rest of his family. the nephilim seed was allowed to pass on the Ark ... I presume so that The Son could demonstrate the type/shadow of the End with the conquest of Canaan. (Ex 23, I don't recall the specific verse off hand, but the angel sent by God who could forgive transgression. That is my understanding ... could be way off ... or spot-on accurate, but that's how the nephilim survived The Flood.

 

You have hung your hat on a single verse and ignore everything else. My question for you is "who are His sheep"? As I understand it they are the ones that follow Him. Those would be the ones that have heard the gospel and believed it, as in Eph 1:13 or Rom 10:14. You know the ones that actually make a free will choice like in Joh 3:18.

So yes Christ Jesus did lay down His life for His sheep which are all those that freely trust in Him for salvation.

 

So was Jud one of the sheep being given to Christ?

 

God is in control. period.

Whether we understand or not doesn't affect that statement ... that truth.

iron sharpening iron is Biblical ... I hadn't really thought much about this topic. IDK if I'll spend too much time with it after the close of this thread, but it's given me something else to ponder. Revelation in due time.

 

someone deceived you! I will keep pray for you

 

LOL!!! the very passage that you refer to in your OP from Luke, shows beyond any doubt to those who don't have a theological BIAS, that Jesus died for Judas. End of!

 

Yet, you wrote in post #110, "Jesus Christ has shed His Blood for "everyone without exception".

Now, you make two exceptions.
One, they must believe and two, they must repent.

One of your assertions cannot be true. Since you make two exceptions, it must be concluded that in your position Jesus shed his blood for everyone...except those who don't repent and don't believe.

Therefore, you limit the atonement or you make the atonement entirely ineffective for all persons who do not believe or repent.

sbg, you are in a biblical pickle of your own making.