And then?The answer is to do what the Bible declares to do to be saved, and its faith alone Grace alone!
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And then?The answer is to do what the Bible declares to do to be saved, and its faith alone Grace alone!
I don't need a concordance it might be specific here but in other places it is not.
You cannot do it specifically or generally since both mitzvouth (specific and general) exist in the Torah.
Absolutely!
It is not foolish. The "why" does not matter. God said not to make or possess images of any kind to have in your private possession.
God told Moses to make a ("fiery serpent" Heb. saraph), Moses made a ("brazen serpent" nechosheth).
A saraph is a snake set on fire, a nechosheth is a brass image of a snake.
So if you had the legal opportunity you would kill me if I broke the sabbath?
Exodus 35:3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.
When you turn on a light, there is a small fire within the bulb.
When you start a car there is fire in each of the cylinders.
When you use a stove there is fire even in an electric stove things will burn.
If you make the excuse that an electric stove has no fire but you burn something on the sabbath on an electric stove and there is fire you are worthy of death and you are cut off from God with no restoration possible.
One infraction and you are doomed.
Not so with Jesus.
Matthew 11
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
HankD
One infraction brings death and excommunication from the people of God.The verse you quoted is correct. Moses does accuse you when you break the torah of YHVH. It is what we shall be judged by. I hope you are found obedient on judgment day and worthy to gain eternal life.
And then we obey the Lord, not in order to keep saved, but out of love and graitiude!And then?
I am seeing the intent of the Gospel and the Cross of Christ, do you?It is clear you are not trying to see the intent of the torah.
Neither are you Jason.It is clear you are not trying to see the intent of the torah.
That was directed at HankI am seeing the intent of the Gospel and the Cross of Christ, do you?
Meant to be you!That was directed at Hank
@Darrell C, Jason follows the Hebrew Roots cult.So the Sacrifice of Christ was for the lost sheep of Israel only?
Christ ministered to the lost sheep of Israel only...only in His fulfilling of His role as the Promised Messiah. This is a distinct Ministry from His Role as Savior of the World.
To think that To think He came only for the lost sheep of Israel begs a few questions:
1. Has God reneged on His promise in the Abrahamic Covenant (that all families of the earth would be blessed through Abraham);
2. Why has Israel been blinded?
Consider:
Isaiah 42:5-7
King James Version (KJV)
5 Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
The Covenant of Law was established with Israel, not the world. Provision for Gentiles has always been in place, but, we see above Christ's ministry towards Gentiles, which we do not see in regards to His Ministry in Israel.
Christ was made under the Law, and ministered in the Law, and again I would point out that these distinctions will make or break your understanding of Scripture.
What religion are you, Jason?
God bless.
Mennosota follows the antinomian cult. Beware because it can have eternal consequences.@Darrell C, Jason follows the Hebrew Roots cult.
Bewitching Believers Through the Hebrew Roots Movement
You never pointed our what was false. I'm not sure you read it. In fact, you confirmed some of what is shared in the article, such as the looseness of the groups. It seems to me that the Hebrew Roots cult is a splinter group of the Armstrongs (Church of God) cult, a mix of Kabbala, and a sprinkling of emergent church concepts.Mennosota follows the antinomian cult. Beware because it can have eternal consequences.
Btw, his link has false info in it as debunked before.
It is indeed an offshoot of the Armstrong Movement in disguise.You never pointed our what was false. I'm not sure you read it. In fact, you confirmed some of what is shared in the article, such as the looseness of the groups. It seems to me that the Hebrew Roots cult is a splinter group of the Armstrongs (Church of God) cult, a mix of Kabbala, and a sprinkling of emergent church concepts.
Indeed, God was gracious to me. He can be gracious to whomever He chooses. I pray for God's grace to draw Jason to the throne through Yeshua's atonement.It is indeed an offshoot of the Armstrong Movement in disguise.
Many have prayed for you Jason.
HankD
Pro_28:9 He who turns away his ear from hearing the Torah, Even his prayer is an abominationIndeed, God was gracious to me. He can be gracious to whomever He chooses. I pray for God's grace to draw Jason to the throne through Yeshua's atonement.
No one is turning their ear from the Sovereign Lord who gave Israel the Torah. But, unlike you, we do not worship the Torah. We worship YHWH, Yeshua (Jesus) the Holy Spirit who fulfilled the Torah in Christ.Pro_28:9 He who turns away his ear from hearing the Torah, Even his prayer is an abomination
Now you're just being over the top ridiculous... lolNo one is turning their ear from the Sovereign Lord who gave Israel the Torah. But, unlike you, we do not worship the Torah. We worship YHWH, Yeshua (Jesus) the Holy Spirit who fulfilled the Torah in Christ.
Worship God, not the Torah, Jason. You have turned the Torah into your idol.
Proverbs 28:10No one is turning their ear from the Sovereign Lord who gave Israel the Torah. But, unlike you, we do not worship the Torah. We worship YHWH, Yeshua (Jesus) the Holy Spirit who fulfilled the Torah in Christ.
Worship God, not the Torah, Jason. You have turned the Torah into your idol.
Why do you keep saying that obeying the Father is the road to hell? Its is preposterous....Proverbs 28:10
Whoever misleads the upright into an evil way will fall into his own pit, but the blameless will have a goodly inheritance.
Only Yeshua, YHWH, makes us blameless by His atoning sacrifice. Only those saved by His grace receive the inheritance as adopted children of the Sovereign King.
May your eyes be opened to the King of Kings, Jason. I do not want you to fall into your open pit.
Why do you keep saying that obeying the Father is the road to hell? Its is preposterous....
Why do you hate His instructions?
Proverbs 28:10
Whoever misleads the upright into an evil way will fall into his own pit, but the blameless will have a goodly inheritance.
Only Yeshua, YHWH, makes us blameless by His atoning sacrifice. Only those saved by His grace receive the inheritance as adopted children of the Sovereign King.
May your eyes be opened to the King of Kings, Jason. I do not want you to fall into your open pit.