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Do you Love YHVH?

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Jason1

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I don't need a concordance it might be specific here but in other places it is not.

You cannot do it specifically or generally since both mitzvouth (specific and general) exist in the Torah.


Absolutely!

It is not foolish. The "why" does not matter. God said not to make or possess images of any kind to have in your private possession.

God told Moses to make a ("fiery serpent" Heb. saraph), Moses made a ("brazen serpent" nechosheth).
A saraph is a snake set on fire, a nechosheth is a brass image of a snake.



So if you had the legal opportunity you would kill me if I broke the sabbath?

Exodus 35:3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.

When you turn on a light, there is a small fire within the bulb.
When you start a car there is fire in each of the cylinders.
When you use a stove there is fire even in an electric stove things will burn.

If you make the excuse that an electric stove has no fire but you burn something on the sabbath on an electric stove and there is fire you are worthy of death and you are cut off from God with no restoration possible.

One infraction and you are doomed.

Not so with Jesus.

Matthew 11
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

HankD

It is clear you are not trying to see the intent of the torah.
 

HankD

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The verse you quoted is correct. Moses does accuse you when you break the torah of YHVH. It is what we shall be judged by. I hope you are found obedient on judgment day and worthy to gain eternal life.
One infraction brings death and excommunication from the people of God.

HankD
 

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It is clear you are not trying to see the intent of the torah.
Neither are you Jason.

The Torah brings a curse for failure in even one point.

Deuteronomy 27:26 Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.

You are a sinner, the law will condemn you in the end.

Flee the wrath to come. Flee to Jesus, God incarnate.

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.

John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

Jesus offers a better promise than Moses.

Do you want it? Flee to Him.

HankD
 

Jason1

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Deu_5:29 ‘Oh, that they had such a heart in them, to fear Me and to guard all My commands always, so that it might be well with them and with their children forever!

Can you hear the Creator's desire?

Mat 19:17 And He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except One – Elohim. But if you wish to enter into life, guard the commands.”
 

MennoSota

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So the Sacrifice of Christ was for the lost sheep of Israel only?

Christ ministered to the lost sheep of Israel only...only in His fulfilling of His role as the Promised Messiah. This is a distinct Ministry from His Role as Savior of the World.

To think that To think He came only for the lost sheep of Israel begs a few questions:

1. Has God reneged on His promise in the Abrahamic Covenant (that all families of the earth would be blessed through Abraham);

2. Why has Israel been blinded?


Consider:


Isaiah 42:5-7
King James Version (KJV)

5 Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.



The Covenant of Law was established with Israel, not the world. Provision for Gentiles has always been in place, but, we see above Christ's ministry towards Gentiles, which we do not see in regards to His Ministry in Israel.

Christ was made under the Law, and ministered in the Law, and again I would point out that these distinctions will make or break your understanding of Scripture.




What religion are you, Jason?


God bless.
@Darrell C, Jason follows the Hebrew Roots cult.
Bewitching Believers Through the Hebrew Roots Movement
 

MennoSota

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Mennosota follows the antinomian cult. Beware because it can have eternal consequences.

Btw, his link has false info in it as debunked before.
You never pointed our what was false. I'm not sure you read it. In fact, you confirmed some of what is shared in the article, such as the looseness of the groups. It seems to me that the Hebrew Roots cult is a splinter group of the Armstrongs (Church of God) cult, a mix of Kabbala, and a sprinkling of emergent church concepts.
 

HankD

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You never pointed our what was false. I'm not sure you read it. In fact, you confirmed some of what is shared in the article, such as the looseness of the groups. It seems to me that the Hebrew Roots cult is a splinter group of the Armstrongs (Church of God) cult, a mix of Kabbala, and a sprinkling of emergent church concepts.
It is indeed an offshoot of the Armstrong Movement in disguise.

Many have prayed for you Jason.

HankD
 

MennoSota

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It is indeed an offshoot of the Armstrong Movement in disguise.

Many have prayed for you Jason.

HankD
Indeed, God was gracious to me. He can be gracious to whomever He chooses. I pray for God's grace to draw Jason to the throne through Yeshua's atonement.
 

Jason1

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Indeed, God was gracious to me. He can be gracious to whomever He chooses. I pray for God's grace to draw Jason to the throne through Yeshua's atonement.
Pro_28:9 He who turns away his ear from hearing the Torah, Even his prayer is an abomination
 

MennoSota

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Pro_28:9 He who turns away his ear from hearing the Torah, Even his prayer is an abomination
No one is turning their ear from the Sovereign Lord who gave Israel the Torah. But, unlike you, we do not worship the Torah. We worship YHWH, Yeshua (Jesus) the Holy Spirit who fulfilled the Torah in Christ.

Worship God, not the Torah, Jason. You have turned the Torah into your idol.
 

Jason1

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No one is turning their ear from the Sovereign Lord who gave Israel the Torah. But, unlike you, we do not worship the Torah. We worship YHWH, Yeshua (Jesus) the Holy Spirit who fulfilled the Torah in Christ.

Worship God, not the Torah, Jason. You have turned the Torah into your idol.
Now you're just being over the top ridiculous... lol

Any other made up things you want to try and tarnish me with?
 

MennoSota

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No one is turning their ear from the Sovereign Lord who gave Israel the Torah. But, unlike you, we do not worship the Torah. We worship YHWH, Yeshua (Jesus) the Holy Spirit who fulfilled the Torah in Christ.

Worship God, not the Torah, Jason. You have turned the Torah into your idol.
Proverbs 28:10
Whoever misleads the upright into an evil way will fall into his own pit, but the blameless will have a goodly inheritance.

Only Yeshua, YHWH, makes us blameless by His atoning sacrifice. Only those saved by His grace receive the inheritance as adopted children of the Sovereign King.

May your eyes be opened to the King of Kings, Jason. I do not want you to fall into your open pit.
 

Jason1

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Proverbs 28:10
Whoever misleads the upright into an evil way will fall into his own pit, but the blameless will have a goodly inheritance.

Only Yeshua, YHWH, makes us blameless by His atoning sacrifice. Only those saved by His grace receive the inheritance as adopted children of the Sovereign King.

May your eyes be opened to the King of Kings, Jason. I do not want you to fall into your open pit.
Why do you keep saying that obeying the Father is the road to hell? Its is preposterous....

Why do you hate His instructions?
 

MennoSota

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Look at my post below and point, exactly, to where I make the claim you have made.
Lying goes against the Moral Law of YHWH, Jason. You have missed the mark. You are dead in your trespasses and sins. The law cannot save you. It only convicts you as a law breaker.

Why do you keep saying that obeying the Father is the road to hell? Its is preposterous....

Why do you hate His instructions?


Proverbs 28:10
Whoever misleads the upright into an evil way will fall into his own pit, but the blameless will have a goodly inheritance.

Only Yeshua, YHWH, makes us blameless by His atoning sacrifice. Only those saved by His grace receive the inheritance as adopted children of the Sovereign King.

May your eyes be opened to the King of Kings, Jason. I do not want you to fall into your open pit.
 
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