Does God have a free will?

[Revmitchell]

Every free will post claims what I laid out.
Your turn.

No no please provide the exact posts.

 

[Particular]

No no please provide the exact posts.

Every post with free will.

Rev, I just started a new thread. Share with us your definition of free will in that thread. I started it just so you and every free will believer can share their definition. In this way there can be a very specific reference we can work from.

 

[Revmitchell]

Every post with free will.

Rev, I just started a new thread. Share with us your definition of free will in that thread. I started it just so you and every free will believer can share their definition. In this way there can be a very specific reference we can work from.

You made the claim now I want to see the exact posts that make the claim about free will you insist they do. Else once again you have posted a strawman

 

[Particular]

You made the claim now I want to see the exact posts that make the claim about free will you insist they do. Else once again you have posted a strawman

Every free will post. Be a dear and read them to me.

 

[Revmitchell]

Every free will post. Be a dear and read them to me.

So once again another dishonest post from you with another strawman. Got it

 

[InTheLight]

No I didn't. I describe God's Sovereign direction over his creation.
When Baalam wanted to curse the Israelites because he would get paid, God said no. No matter what Balaam tried, he could not because God would not allow it.
Do you imagine Balaam is an anomaly?

Yes. Do you think God sends angels to block the path of donkeys? Or makes donkeys (or other animals) speak aloud to effect his will?

Does God not direct every aspect of His creation?

Yes, he does. The question is how far into the minutiae does he go?

 

[Particular]

So once again another dishonest post from you with another strawman. Got it

Once again, you run away from sharing, but instead accuse. Got it.

 

[InTheLight]

It is a direct question to those (you) who are teaching that human will is not harnessed by God's authoritative will, but is left to freely do whatever it chooses to do.

Naturally you can make a list of these posts where I stated that human's will is not harnessed by God.

Unless you have a definition of free will that is conditional and isn't truly free. Is that the case? Is the human will only "sort of" free, yet God can reign it in at any time? Perhaps humans are like the dog in a leash where the owner lets out enough rope so as to make the dog think that it is free? Or is it like the free range cattle that gets corraled whenever the rancher decides it's time to round them up?

How far into the details does God control? I've had Calvinists say that my lunch was predetermined by God from eternity past. Is that how far into the details God manages his creation?

 

[Particular]

Yes. Do you think God sends angels to block the path of donkeys? Or makes donkeys (or other animals) speak aloud to effect his will?

Yes

Yes, he does. The question is how far into the minutiae does he go?

How far into a clock would a clockmaker go? Would he pay detailed attention to each gear?
As all-knowing Creator God directs the minutiae to perfectly keep the clock moving exactly as he has planned and designed.

 

[Particular]

Naturally you can make a list of these posts where I stated that human's will is not harnessed by God.



How far into the details does God control? I've had Calvinists say that my lunch was predetermined by God from eternity past. Is that how far into the details God manages his creation?

God is over all aspects of his creation. Not one area of creation escapes God's all-knowing plan.

 

[InTheLight]

God is over all aspects of his creation. Not one area of creation escapes God's all-knowing plan.

Answer Yes or No.

God, in his sovereignty, decided in eternity past that I was going to have a ham and cheese sandwich for lunch today?

 

[Particular]

Answer Yes or No.

God, in his sovereignty, decided in eternity past that I was going to have a ham and cheese sandwich for lunch today?

God from eternity past directed you to eat that ham and cheese sandwich for lunch. Yes.
Does that seem like God is just too aware and concerned with all his creation? Should he be sleeping and unaware of some things?

 

[utilyan]

God is over all aspects of his creation. Not one area of creation escapes God's all-knowing plan.

Here is a few very anti Calvinist words-----> HONESTLY. SINCERELY.

God HONESTLY and SINCERELY, Wants and desires ABSOLUTELY for YOU to never sin ever again.

So Tell us about this SINLESS LIFE God always WANTED, DESIRED, DEMANDED and COMMANDED you to Live.

Tell us about your sinless saintly life today.

Or do you dare think you can THWART the great sovereignty of God almighty?

 

[InTheLight]

God from eternity past directed you to eat that ham and cheese sandwich for lunch. Yes.
Does that seem like God is just too aware and concerned with all his creation? Should he be sleeping and unaware of some things?

You are stating two different things. Directing me to do something is not the same thing as being aware that I'm doing something.

I would suggest that God is aware that I had a ham and cheese sandwich for lunch, but I would not suggest that to show his sovereignty and control over his creation he needed to direct, or cause me to have that sandwich for lunch.

It's just not in God's plan to direct me to choose what I'm eating for lunch on any given day.

 

[Particular]

Here is a few very anti Calvinist words-----> HONESTLY. SINCERELY.

God HONESTLY and SINCERELY, Wants and desires ABSOLUTELY for YOU to never sin ever again.

So Tell us about this SINLESS LIFE God always WANTED, DESIRED, DEMANDED and COMMANDED you to Live.

Tell us about your sinless saintly life today.

Or do you dare think you can THWART the great sovereignty of God almighty?

That will happen when God decides it is time. Until then, God is patiently withholding his wrath until the last person comes to faith, exactly as God has planned.

 

[Particular]

You are stating two different things. Directing me to do something is not the same thing as being aware that I'm doing something.

I would suggest that God is aware that I had a ham and cheese sandwich for lunch, but I would not suggest that to show his sovereignty and control over his creation he needed to direct, or cause me to have that sandwich for lunch.

It's just not in God's plan to direct me to choose what I'm eating for lunch on any given day.

God is aware of your actions and either allowing or not allowing you to act according to your desires. He does this according to his overriding will.

 

[Marooncat79]

Free will for God?

Yes and no

God is not restrained by anything and always rules in wisdom power and love (someone should really write a song about it)

There is absolutely nothing that restrains God hence God is not ruled or regulated by free will

He is completely independent of wverything especially sin

 

[utilyan]

That will happen when God decides it is time. Until then, God is patiently withholding his wrath until the last person comes to faith, exactly as God has planned.

"That will happen when God decides it is time"
GOD has already decided HE DOES NOT WANT YOU TO SIN NOW OR EVER AGAIN.


"Until then"

OH so you are SINNING? Despite God's DESIRE, WANT, and COMMAND not to? Why doesn't God get what he wants?

ARE you calling God a LIAR!? Does He want you to sin ever again YES OR NO?

 

[MB]

God is aware of your actions and either allowing or not allowing you to act according to your desires. He does this according to his overriding will.

God Yes He allows and disallows there fore there can be no total domination. Your words in a previous post.
"Not one thing happens outside of the Creator giving allowance so that his perfect will shall be accomplished."
Congratulations you just admitted that God has given men there own dominion. The end of determinism for you.
MB

 

[Particular]

"That will happen when God decides it is time"
GOD has already decided HE DOES NOT WANT YOU TO SIN NOW OR EVER AGAIN.


"Until then"

OH so you are SINNING? Despite God's DESIRE, WANT, and COMMAND not to? Why doesn't God get what he wants?

ARE you calling God a LIAR!? Does He want you to sin ever again YES OR NO?

God allows me to sin because I am not yet made perfect. He is working his plan through this sinner who has received his grace. If it was God's will to make me perfect, He would.
What is certain is that you misunderstand God and scripture.