1689Dave
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Are you saying God and Paul are wrong in what the passage says? Or maybe you just want to treat it lightly and play games with it?
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End times thoughts.....
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No, I already told you that maybe you are talking about the next world because I am still a free male Greek. You are saying that I am now a Jew and I am asking, and you are ignoring, am I still a free male? I am still a gentile because I am not Abraham's seed.
1689Dave
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“For in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God through faith.For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female—for all of you are one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to the promise.” (Galatians 3:26–29) (NET)
You keep repeating that and I keep telling you that I am not Abraham's seed and I am still a free male. So I don't know what your point is.
1689Dave
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If you believe in Christ, you are Abraham's seed.
“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.” (Galatians 3:16) (KJV 1900)
“And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” (Galatians 3:29) (KJV 1900)
I simply asked you if you knew what it is
Jews are by physical birth....I cannot be a Jew, nether casn they be a Gentile!
Would say that the only faith seed of Abraham would be spiritual Israel, redeemed Jews, but all Jews born Jewish are physical descendants of his!
Only the homosexual ones
Yes, but they stayed physically Gentiles, and saved Jews are still physically Jews!
Wrong! Think conversion.
1689Dave
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Jesus is Abraham's seed. Not the physical seed. And those who believe in Christ are Abraham's seed.
“Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.” (Galatians 3:16) (KJV 1900)
“And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” (Galatians 3:29) (KJV 1900)
“Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:” (Romans 9:6) (KJV 1900)
Jews saved by God are still physically Jews, and gentiles saved by God still physically Gentiles.
The spiritual seed of Abraham would be saved jews/Gentiles, but there are many physical descendants of his, called the Jews!
1689Dave
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So is God and Paul wrong? or do you misunderstand them?
What do you mean by “psysically”
1689Dave
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They call themselves by that name, but Judaism is a false religion, not a nationality.
He is debating for a Supersessionism theology, isn't he?
The Jews are descendants of Judah. The others are Israelites.
I guess they became servants or slaves to Christ.
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