I guess they became servants or slaves to Christ.
I forget if you are supersessionist or not? Did they get a gender swap, too?
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I guess they became servants or slaves to Christ.
I used to work with a Jewish lad who said there was no such thing as a Jewish Nation, only a religion.They call themselves by that name, but Judaism is a false religion, not a nationality.
They will not become Gentiles though, correct? We gentiles do not change into jews?The Jews are descendants of Judah. The others are Israelites.
I forget if you are supersessionist or not? Did they get a gender swap, too?
I vaguely remember there was a belief held by some that we get "Jewish blood" in our veins once saved!I used to work with a Jewish lad who said there was no such thing as a Jewish Nation, only a religion.
No, I already told you that maybe you are talking about the next world because I am still a free male Greek. You are saying that I am now a Jew and I am asking, and you are ignoring, am I still a free male? I am still a gentile because I am not Abraham's seed.
You keep repeating that and I keep telling you that I am not Abraham's seed and I am still a free male. So I don't know what your point is.
Jews are by physical birth....I cannot be a Jew, nether casn they be a Gentile!
I forget if you are supersessionist or not? Did they get a gender swap, too?
They will not become Gentiles though, correct? We gentiles do not change into jews?
I vaguely remember there was a belief held by some that we get "Jewish blood" in our veins once saved!
What a display of Scriptural ignorance, & carnal thinking. We need spiritual understanding, for God has given us new birth. We are no longer Jew nor Gentile, we become born again of the Holy Spirit children of God.
John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Phil. 3:Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe. 2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. 3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
These quotes show serious misunderstand of Scripture.
Well, we know that you are a supersessionist, don't we? But this thread is not about supersessionism, is it? It is about Jacob's trouble, huh? Do you think that you will go through the Great Tribulation, or are you following your John Nelson Darby?
The person is still physically Jewish/Gentile, its just now part of spiritual Israel!Well, we know that you are a supersessionist, don't we? But this thread is not about supersessionism, is it? It is about Jacob's trouble, huh? Do you think that you will go through the Great Tribulation, or are you following your John Nelson Darby?
The Great tribulation was to be immediately followed by the Second Coming event, and when did that happen again?I don't know what you know - you never make it clear using Scripture.
Jacob's trouble (Jeremiah 30) was the scenario recorded in the book of Esther.
The GT Jesus prophesied (Mat. 24) was leading up to the AD 70 destruction.
I haven't got a JND to follow.
Jesus was a Jew, Paul was a Jew & so where most of the apostles.They call themselves by that name, but Judaism is a false religion, not a nationality.
This is true. But they all received circumcision before Jesus abolished it on the cross. From that point on, nothing remained to make one a physical member of Israel. And physical Israel was on its way out, culminating in AD70. All physical Jews today are technically gentiles that sport Jewish beliefs and customs.Jesus was a Jew, Paul was a Jew & so where most of the apostles.
I knowThis is true. But they all received circumcision before Jesus abolished it on the cross. From that point on, nothing remained to make one a physical member of Israel. And physical Israel was on its way out, culminating in AD70. All physical Jews today are technically gentiles that sport Jewish beliefs and customs.
This is so wrong!This is true. But they all received circumcision before Jesus abolished it on the cross. From that point on, nothing remained to make one a physical member of Israel. And physical Israel was on its way out, culminating in AD70. All physical Jews today are technically gentiles that sport Jewish beliefs and customs.
God did not exterminate the Jewish race, as Jesus stated that they would still be a Race when he returned, and that is yet to happen!I know
No.... He made them irrelevant. Now they are on the same level as everybody else.God did not exterminate the Jewish race, as Jesus stated that they would still be a Race when he returned, and that is yet to happen!
They are getting it from Christian dispensationalists.
The evening I came to faith in June 1979, it was one of the first things I 'learned.' The "counselor" gave me a Jack Chick tract called "Kings of the East" that explicitly states that "2/3 of all Jews are killed..." with the Zechariah 13:8 reference. You can see it yourself here (look at PDF page 14). The tract was eventually pulled from publication for its many faults, but it ties in nicely with the Left Behind chronology, as well as most other similar interpretations.
I grew up with this stuff.
I read 2 Thessalonians slooooooowly and saw how wrong he was.I was sucked into the Hal Lindsey craze because it comported with the atmosphere I grew up in. My infatuation lasted until I came across a passage (I can't remember what it was now) where I knew was twisting scriptures to fit his own interpretation. To this day I reject "teachers" who attempt to fit their eschatology to the headlines and those who have tidy little systems for dealing with the prophetic and apocalyptic writings in the Bible.
I read 2 Thessalonians slooooooowly and saw how wrong he was.
Now you are being bizzareI vaguely remember there was a belief held by some that we get "Jewish blood" in our veins once saved!