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Hollow Man

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atpollard said:
WHAT SORT OF A CHRISTIAN ARE YOU?
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The kind who listens to Proverbs 26:4.
MartyF said:
This is an excellent point.

Catholics come to this forum to claim that they are persecuted when, in fact, they are and have traditionally been the primary persecutors.
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Have you been to the Catholic forums on CARM? It's pretty funny. That's their big thing, that they're so persecuted and mistreated, when they're the rudest and most obnoxious ones there.
 
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Hollow Man said:
The kind who listens to Proverbs 26:4.


Have you been to the Catholic forums on CARM? It's pretty funny. That's their big thing, that they're so persecuted and mistreated, when they're the rudest and most obnoxious ones there.
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Rome has always persewcuted the real Christians, both in and outside their church!
 
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church mouse guy said:
How do you define anathema?
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It is a formal excommunication. It formally separates one from the Church for grave sins against the faith, particularly apostasy, formal heresy and formal schism.

---> Matthew 18:17
---> 1 Cor 16:22
---> Galatians 1:8-9
---> Titus 3:10-11

It is not a condemnation to hell, as no one can send anyone to hell save God Himself.
 
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I'd like to add to my list based on recent posts...

- That the Council of Trent condemned Protestants to hell
- That Catholics are sinister and their real motive to posting here is to try and deceive Protestants.


If you are interested, there is a great book written by Dr. Rodney Stark of Baylor University entitled "Bearing False Witness." The book seeks to dispel many lies perpetuated by Protestants throughout the past several centuries about the Catholic Church.

Dr. Stark is himself a Protestant and hence the charge of special pleading cannot be leveled against him.

---> https://www.amazon.com/Bearing-False-Witness-Debunking-Anti-Catholic/dp/1599474999
 
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MartyF said:
Actually, about half the Baptists on this forum accuses the other half of the Baptists of this. You should look at the Calvinism vs. Arminianism section. At least a quarter of the Baptists on this forum would not welcome me at their church.

I don't know why Catholics think they are being singled-out in this regard.



About half the Baptists on this forum consider grace to be the most important part in determining salvation - not faith.

I don't know why Catholics think they are being singled-out in this regard.



This is the Catholic's fault. When I point blank asked what you believe about Mary, all the Catholics refused to answer. If you don't share what your beliefs are, don't blame other people if they get it wrong.



This is actually an accusation from former Catholics. Most Baptists would think that you consider the statues to be symbolic like the grape juice and crackers.



Once again, former Catholics are the ones who called you Papists. Baptists I know disagree with the Pope's special revelation.



There are nuts on this forum, but Baptists are very democratic and allow quite a bit of speech on their forum.



I think the accusation in the post you're talking about was against everyone - including Baptists and Protestants. Remember - Seventh-day-Adventist is considered a divergent sect of Christianity. No one considers them Protestant.



Baptists believe they have a direct line to Jesus. Most just consider it silly to talk to a dead person to plead with Jesus when one can just simply plead with Jesus. Many here believe that the prayer only changes them and is used to put themselves in the right frame of mind and make them feel better. I might be the only one on the forum who believes that I can convince God to do something that he wasn't already going to do.



About half the Catholics I walk up to and ask if they are "born again" - say no. So you have a problem with your fellow Catholics - not me.



Same thing. Most want to be called Catholic.



Not sure what you are talking about here.

On a side note, I went to a Lutheran University, so I know that my traditional Baptist upbringing is not anything like the Protestants. However, there are a disproportionate number of reformed and 5-pointer Baptists on this forum who do consider themselves to be protestant.
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"This is the Catholic's fault. When I point blank asked what you believe about Mary, all the Catholics refused to answer."

Mary is not God, we don't worship Mary. Am I going to get a receipt ?
 
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davidtaylorjr said:
Don't believe that those are actual misconceptions. That's just what they try to make you believe.
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There seems to be a miscommunication between what the RCC official doctrines and dogmas are, and what some of them posting here say there are!
 
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Walpole said:
It is a formal excommunication. It formally separates one from the Church for grave sins against the faith, particularly apostasy, formal heresy and formal schism.

---> Matthew 18:17
---> 1 Cor 16:22
---> Galatians 1:8-9
---> Titus 3:10-11

It is not a condemnation to hell, as no one can send anyone to hell save God Himself.
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And since salvation is found only in the true Church as per Rome.....
 
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Yeshua1 said:
Salvation, per Rome, is found only in the one true Church!
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And yet we often get complaints because we will tell you Atheists, Buddhist and Muslims can be saved.

We don't believe Salvation is exclusively for Catholics only.
 
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utilyan said:
And yet we often get complaints because we will tell you Atheists, Buddhist and Muslims can be saved.

We don't believe Salvation is exclusively for Catholics only.
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You allow for Jews and Muslims and other faiths to get saved due to their ignorance of RCC theology, but not us!
 
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Whats the defense when its LET ME TELL YOU what YOU believe!?

I don't have to express what anyone believe in the WORST POSSIBLE LIGHT to disagree with what they teach.

I can have folks tell me what they believe, I can give my understanding, ALLOW IT TO BE CORRECTED to where we can both agree to it, as far as understanding. And I will disagree with what is taught if I feel its wrong.

Rarely does anyone disagree with what the Catholic church teaches.


“There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.” --Fulton J Sheen.


What the Catholic Church teaches is SO RIGHT it requires misrepresentation to get any kind of foothold.

What the catholic church teaches according to 5-point brother Bubba.

Its like asking NAZI's what do Jews believe.
 
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utilyan said:
Whats the defense when its LET ME TELL YOU what YOU believe!?

I don't have to express what anyone believe in the WORST POSSIBLE LIGHT to disagree with what they teach.

I can have folks tell me what they believe, I can give my understanding, ALLOW IT TO BE CORRECTED to where we can both agree to it, as far as understanding. And I will disagree with what is taught if I feel its wrong.

Rarely does anyone disagree with what the Catholic church teaches.


“There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.” --Fulton J Sheen.


What the Catholic Church teaches is SO RIGHT it requires misrepresentation to get any kind of foothold.

What the ca tholic church teaches according to 5-point brother Bubba.

Its like asking NAZI's what do Jews believe.
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The problem is that Rome officially teaches heresy!
 
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Yeshua1 said:
You allow for Jews and Muslims and other faiths to get saved due to their ignorance of RCC theology, but not us!
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OF course I believe you can be saved. Part of being Catholic is we believe we are way more accountable. I got to answer for not setting a better example, or losing my cool. ESPECIALLY when I am in the right.

With God nothing is impossible. He can hold me accountable for the misbehavior of everyone on earth from ancient past to the future.`

The closer we get to God the more the responsibility and accountability starts to take a different form from just reward and consequences. It stops being about me and whats in it for me, We start to adopt God's love for all people. I can only win when you win.

Between us if there was only one seat to heaven. I'd have you tied up in that seat in a heartbeat.
 
Walpole

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utilyan said:
OF course I believe you can be saved. Part of being Catholic is we believe we are way more accountable. I got to answer for not setting a better example, or losing my cool. ESPECIALLY when I am in the right.

With God nothing is impossible. He can hold me accountable for the misbehavior of everyone on earth from ancient past to the future.`

The closer we get to God the more the responsibility and accountability starts to take a different form from just reward and consequences. It stops being about me and whats in it for me, We start to adopt God's love for all people. I can only win when you win.

Between us if there was only one seat to heaven. I'd have you tied up in that seat in a heartbeat.
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Great post.

God bless and keep up the good work you are doing here.
 
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utilyan said:
OF course I believe you can be saved. Part of being Catholic is we believe we are way more accountable. I got to answer for not setting a better example, or losing my cool. ESPECIALLY when I am in the right.

With God nothing is impossible. He can hold me accountable for the misbehavior of everyone on earth from ancient past to the future.`

The closer we get to God the more the responsibility and accountability starts to take a different form from just reward and consequences. It stops being about me and whats in it for me, We start to adopt God's love for all people. I can only win when you win.

Between us if there was only one seat to heaven. I'd have you tied up in that seat in a heartbeat.
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I am saying that Rome officially teaches that while God can save those ignorant of catholic teachings and sincere in faith, no salvation for those who know and reject theology of Rome!
 
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