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Servent

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I don't understand why anyone would not long to hear from God whenever and wherever possible.
I believe that is what is wrong with our country today, were always doing what we want instead of what God wants us to do. As for as myself nothing else matters, I Love my family and would do anything I can for them but serving my LORD and Saviour must come first above all else. When I stand before Him on judgment day I want to hear well done my good and faithful servant.
 

annsni

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His Blood Spoke My Name said:
If we choose to be with family over Christ, we are not worthy of Him. The Church is indeed the Body of Christ, you should think so much of your family that you would want them to be in Church regardless of games, tv shows, weddings, birthdays, or any other worldly event that does nothing to edify the Body of Christ.

Can you show me where attending the 11 AM service is choosing Christ?
 

James_Newman

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Servent said:
I don't understand why anyone would not long to hear from God whenever and wherever possible.
I believe that is what is wrong with our country today, were always doing what we want instead of what God wants us to do. As for as myself nothing else matters, I Love my family and would do anything I can for them but serving my LORD and Saviour must come first above all else. When I stand before Him on judgment day I want to hear well done my good and faithful servant.

AMEN! And most people on this board don't think they can hear anything else.
 

webdog

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I believe that is what is wrong with our country today, were always doing what we want instead of what God wants us to do.
OK, show us where God wants us to attend EVERY service and EVERY event at church.
Since our church decided on a Sunday AM meeting only (like annsi), did our Church decide on something that God doesn't want? Ever think it could be a possibility that God doesn't want 2 Sunday services? What days and times does God want us to be in church? Since each body meets at different times and days, which days and times are "authorized" by God?
 

Servent

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webdog said:
OK, show us where God wants us to attend EVERY service and EVERY event at church.
Since our church decided on a Sunday AM meeting only (like annsi), did our Church decide on something that God doesn't want? Ever think it could be a possibility that God doesn't want 2 Sunday services? What days and times does God want us to be in church? Since each body meets at different times and days, which days and times are "authorized" by God?
As soon as you answer the first part of my post.
 

webdog

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I don't understand why anyone would not long to hear from God whenever and wherever possible.
You mean this? I agree with this 100%. Again, what does this constitute...and how does this fit into attending church? Am I more spiritual if I watch preaching DVD's for 10 hours a day while you are in church for one?
 
webdog said:
You mean this? I agree with this 100%. Again, what does this constitute...and how does this fit into attending church? Am I more spiritual if I watch preaching DVD's for 10 hours a day while you are in church for one?

Watching a DVD of preaching is far from assembling together. One does not just need the preaching, but the constant fellowship for encouragement, instruction, strength, etc.
 

Servent

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webdog said:
You mean this? I agree with this 100%. Again, what does this constitute...and how does this fit into attending church? Am I more spiritual if I watch preaching DVD's for 10 hours a day while you are in church for one?
The point I was tiring to make here is our country is in a spiritual downward spiral and if going to church 3 times a week is a hardship its not going to get any better. If agree 100% then why do you have such a problem with it.
 

gb93433

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Pastor Larry said:
How can you have zeal for God without having zeal for the church, which is the body of Christ? I think we fall prey to this kind of sloganeering that has no basis in Scripture.

I think there are a variety of ways to structure a church's meetings. There is nothing sacred about the particular days of the week it occurs on. My concern is with the attitude that considers church dispensable. I don't see that in the NT.
I would disagree. According to Rev. 2 even the local church is dispensable. I would contend that the church in Rev. 2 characterizes a number of churches today. They believed the right things and even acted on what they believed but had lost their first love. When churches do that they will have their lampstand rermoved.

Rev. 2:1-5 "To the angel of the church in Ephesus write: The One who holds the seven stars in His right hand, the One who walks among the seven golden lampstands, says this: `I know your deeds and your toil and perseverance, and that you cannot tolerate evil men, and you put to the test those who call themselves apostles, and they are not, and you found them to be false; 3 and you have perseverance and have endured for My name's sake, and have not grown weary. `But I have this against you, that you have left your first love. `Therefore remember from where you have fallen, and repent and do the deeds you did at first; or else I am coming to you and will remove your lampstand out of its place--unless you repent.

However the body of Christ is always around. There is a remnant.
 

Hope of Glory

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How is it that one can only hear God while in a particular building?

How is it that one can only have fellowship with brethren while in a particular building?

Is a church with one service per week less spiritual than one that has 10?

I do think church attendance is important. Even for the sake of society. When blue laws were (and still are in some places) on the books, crime was down. Mainly because more people went to church because there "was nothing better to do", so there was less time spent carousing on Saturday night. (Although this is lousy reasoning for being in church, it's still better than being out carousing.)

When I raced motorcycles professionally, half the races were on Sunday. There was an official quiet time on Sunday morning, both for the neighborhood and the racers, and we would have our own services. I wouldn't be in my "church" for weeks at a time, but I still got to preach. But, to some, that's not holy enough.

When our football team travels on Sundays, we attend a local church where the game is, or we have our own prayer meeting. But, I guess that's not holy enough either.

To say that there's something wrong with someone who doesn't darken the doorway to a particular building every time said doors are open, is legalism as much as the person who preaches that you must go doorknocking x amount, or you just don't really love God enough.
 

annsni

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I just wanted to post this here - I thought this was a very interesting e-mail I just got. Developmental 1 is first graders and we're in a largely Catholic area:

Due to Communion Services the next two weekends, we will be swapping the Development 1 & 2 schedules so that we can accommodate the teams that will be without a number of the players that will be attending the services on the next two consecutive Saturdays

As a result, all Development 1 games that are scheduled for Friday, 5/4 and Friday 5/11 at 5:30pm will now be rescheduled for Saturday, 5/5 and Saturday 5/12 at 10:30am. The field designations for each of the games moved will be the same so if you are schedule to use Field #1 on Friday Night you will also use Field #1 for Saturday AM.


I'm impressed that they changed the games for those who will be doing their First Communion! Makes me like Little League even more (they don't play on Sunday, so we joined up. Soccer is on Sunday so we dont' do that)
 

Servent

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annsni said:
Can you show me where attending the 11 AM service is choosing Christ?
It does not matter what time the service is or on what day, what matters is if Gods word is being spoken we should want to be there to hear from Him.
 

annsni

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Servent said:
It does not matter what time the service is or on what day, what matters is if Gods word is being spoken we should want to be there to hear from Him.

OK - Here's another question - for a while, we had 3 services - one on Saturday night and 2 on Sunday morning - all identical except for the worship (DH lead worship on Saturday evening, another team did Sunday morning). Do we need to be at all 3? Should we expect everyone to be there Saturday night AND Sunday morning? Should you WANT to be there to listen to the same message 3X?
 

Pastor Larry

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I would disagree. According to Rev. 2 even the local church is dispensable.
Rev 2 says nothing of the sort.

When churches do that they will have their lampstand rermoved.
Which means they cease to exist. There are no more believers there.

However the body of Christ is always around. There is a remnant.
Since the body of Christ is the church, if the body of Christ is always around then the church is always around.

This thread reminds me just how deficient our ecclesiology is. One of Baptist's greatest failures has been the failure to teach ecclesiology.
 

Karen

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Ann,
In response to your last question, I would presume you would go to one since the reason for 3 was space considerations for everyone to meet at the same time, etc.

I commend you and your family for a balanced approach, but I don't think any of your scenarios are what I am concerned with when I think about this issue.
I probably would make everyone on each end of the spectrum uneasy. I do think "going" is very important, and I do, at least 2, very often 3 times a week. But there are times that things come up that I don't.

But in the SBC, for example, millions of members never darken the doors. Never. And many others only on occasion, if convenient.
When contacted, many say it is because of reasons like family. Maybe some are making an idol of family. Maybe some need to be reminded that membership means commitment to the church of which one is a part. There are enough churches in many parts of the US that one can change membership for a church more agreeable in practice.

Like some of the others, I am not interested in the number of times attending, as much as an implied attitude that attending can be a bother and a detraction from the time spent living one's "real" Christian life.
 
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annsni

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Karen - I'm right there with you. I know that we and most of our friends LOVE to be at church. There are wonderful people there and great teaching and it's so uplifiting to be with other believers. We are together with our church family almost every day in one form or another and if we're not together, we talk on the phone.

I guess what gets my ire up is when someone says that if you're not at church every time the doors are open then you're less of a Christian and falling away - if you don't have the DESIRE to be there every waking moment, then something is wrong. Honestly, I need ONE night home with my family and unless that night is taken up with something extremely important at church, then I'm home - even if something that's going on at church at all. I have a very close immediate family - I have teen agers, a first grader and a preschooler and we all get along beautifully. I don't WANT to separate from them all the time with me going to this meeting and dumping the kids in the nursery, having my teens go someplace else, etc. For some things, that's fine. On Sunday, my teens are with DH (I'm in the sound booth working) and the little ones are in Sunday School. But then sometimes we have meetings Sunday night where the kids are put into the nursery and the teens are helping to watch them. The meeting is good - but not necessary for me. If I went to everything the church offered, my children would be separated from me for much of the time. Now, I homeschool but think of those who's kids go to public school - and the parents work. Add in a meeting every night or every other night at church and there's no time for ME to raise my children - instead of someone else. See, the Bible never says to put your kids in the nursery or in Sunday School to let someone else teach them of the Lord - WE are to do that. How are we to do that when we're never together? Or ARE we supposed to all go to meetings to let others do that (even if the child is with us)? Deuteronomy 6:7 (and 11:19 says almost the same thing) "You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise." How am I to do this when I'm going to church meetings all the time?

I'm sorry, I think our responsibility is to God above all. That does not equal church - but God. He is to be Lord over church, our home life, our sports events and our leisure time. God gave us a mandate to raise our children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord and to teach our children DILIGENTLY - when we sit in our house, when we walk by the way, when we lie down and when we get up. We just cannot do that when we are busy with "church" stuff. Church is vitally important and we need to be sure that we're involved in a good church getting good solid teaching and using our ministry gifts to further the kingdom but I don't think that someone who is at church every waking moment is any better a Christian than someone else who comes to church faithfully, is serving - but is not there on Wednesday nights because that's one night they decided to do "family night". I think he just has his priorities straight.
 

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Excellent post annsi, I agree, and this is the point I was trying to make, particularly the last paragraph :thumbs:

It's a sad day when a wife leaves a husband because he is never home and always at church (Charles Stanley comes to mind)
 
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Servent

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annsni said:
OK - Here's another question - for a while, we had 3 services - one on Saturday night and 2 on Sunday morning - all identical except for the worship (DH lead worship on Saturday evening, another team did Sunday morning). Do we need to be at all 3? Should we expect everyone to be there Saturday night AND Sunday morning? Should you WANT to be there to listen to the same message 3X?
No thats not what I'm saying at all, some Church's have 2 or 3 services because of space, I'm not saying you have to be at church every time the door opens, what I am wondering is why a person would only want to go 1 time a week, If Gods word is being preached why would you not want to hear it.
 

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It's not a matter of 'wanting' to hear preaching or going to church, it's a matter of choosing between two or more things. Just because I choose not to attend a Thursday night prayer meeting, and instead choose to not get fired from my job so I can support my family does not mean I don't want to be there. Situations dictate other situations.
 
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