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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Jarthur001, Oct 26, 2007.

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  1. reformedbeliever

    reformedbeliever New Member

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    It will all be ok in a bit web. This thread has gone on for over 30 pages, and I suspect that a mod will be along to let you off the hook for a bit shortly.
     
  2. reformedbeliever

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    Besides, I have a football game to attend. I sincerely pray you have a great weekend brother. And I do sincerely love you. I even enjoy our little "passionate" discussions. :laugh: Grace and peace.
     
  3. Amy.G

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    Double, triple, quadrouple, cintuplet (making them up now) SIGH!

    I know the verse has the word through in it, just not where you keep claiming.

    It's FOR salvation, not THROUGH salvation.

    We were chosen FOR salvation. What does that mean to you?
     
  4. Bible-boy

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    24 Hour Warning: This thread has gone over thirty (30) pages. As such it will be closed within the next 24 hours.

    Bible-boy,
    Forum Moderator
     
  5. webdog

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    Amy, you are really confusing the issue. I never stated we are chosen through salvation. We are chosen for salvation through...you cannot separate them. At any rate, what's the difference?
    If I buy a plain ticket FOR California with stops THROUGH Texas and Nevada, I'm not going to California unless I go through Texas and Nevada.
     
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    Same to you..."old man" :laugh:
     
  7. Amy.G

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    Or....if you were chosen to take a trip to Cal. and it stopped in Texas, you will not get to Cal. unless you go through Texas.

    The question remains. Why were you chosen to go to California?
     
  8. reformedbeliever

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    Ok web....... now you have twenty four hours to win this debate. I'm sorry I won't be here. You know..... football. :)
    Our freshly, newley, is that a word?... Calvinist Amy, will take up the debate.... quite worthily, is that a word?... I might add.......... lol

    Have a great weekend everyone!
     
  9. npetreley

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    What? You're limiting God's sovereignty over time that He has to obey your rules of how a sequence can occur?

    Sorry - I couldn't resist a parody of one of YOUR illogical arguments. ;) (i.e. that God can abdicate His sovereignty over our decisions yet still be sovereign over that decision.)
     
  10. reformedbeliever

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    Great question. Texas is a fantastic state........
    Why would anyone want to go to California? :eek:
    Wait.... I'm an OU Sooner fan.... ok, i'm outa here.....
    Old man? I resemble that. :)
     
  11. Amy.G

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    Ha! I'm a freshly, newly and you're an old man! :laugh: :laugh:


    Just kidding. Cause I'm an old lady! :laugh:
     
  12. npetreley

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    If all else fails, create an analogy that suits your point. But as Amy showed, an analogy can take you anywhere you want. All you do is end up arguing over the analogy and you get no closer to the truth.
     
  13. Amy.G

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    I gotta go for awhile, but I may have to start another thread to find out why web is going to California. ;)
     
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    Why are your posts so antagonistic? Why are you so bitter and angry all of the time? It truly is quite sad... :tear:
     
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    God "bought the ticket" with Christ. In order to go, you need to make the stops. Why? 2 Peter 3:9.
     
  16. Amy.G

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    Using the same interpretation that you do of 2 Thess. 2:13, you were chosen to go to California because to get there you had to go through Texas. :confused:
    See, you keep saying that "why" you were chosen is because of "how" you are saved.


    2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

    Could "all" in this verse refer to all whose names were written in the book of life before the foundation of the world?

    It couldn't mean all of humanity because we know that not all will be saved.
     
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    I used to live in California, and I live in Texas now, but I never went through Texas to get to California. Does that mean I'm not saved?

    :laugh:
     
  18. Amy.G

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    Yes.





    :laugh: :laugh:
     
  19. Jarthur001

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    I started this thread a few days ago with this post...

    Still we have not one free-willer willing to post this order of events.

    This is a big whole on their side, and they will never make that order. NEVER.
    When it is made, it becomes clear it does not add up.
     
  20. Isaiah40:28

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    Allan's order doesn't count?
    Post #172 on page 18.
     
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