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How often do people really use guns in self-defense

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Revmitchell

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AustinC said:
There is reason to restrict the types of guns owned by citizens.
As one who grew up all around hunters, I have no concern with someone owning a shotgun for pheasant, duck, deer, bear, etc. during hunting season.
Beyond hunting, there is no reason for a gun.
A reasonable protection is to restrict the types of guns being sold.
We have a culture that worships guns. Christians have joined this culture in worship. It is idolatry.
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First we dont need a reason. Second when ever you dont like something you use this hyperbolic language to describe it and others who support it. Using your logic it could easily be said you worship smearing others in the worst possible language. It doesnt make your position convincing and it appears like you dont have a good argument so you use that type of language to try to make your case stronger. It doesnt. You call yourself a conservative but gun control isnt a conservative value.
 
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AustinC said:
There is reason to restrict the types of guns owned by citizens.
As one who grew up all around hunters, I have no concern with someone owning a shotgun for pheasant, duck, deer, bear, etc. during hunting season.
Beyond hunting, there is no reason for a gun.
A reasonable protection is to restrict the types of guns being sold.
We have a culture that worships guns. Christians have joined this culture in worship. It is idolatry.
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AustinC

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Revmitchell said:
First we dont need a reason. Second when ever you dont like something you use this hyperbolic language to describe it and others who support it. Using your logic it could easily be said you worship smearing others in the worst possible language. It doesnt make your position convincing and it appears like you dont have a good argument so you use that type of language to try to make your case stronger. It doesnt. You call yourself a conservative but gun control isnt a conservative value.
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Neither is anarchy and no regulation a conservative value. In fact the argument about guns is not a human value at all. Guns are merely a tool. A one purpose tool. There is zero value in a tool.

When we hold tightly to an object and fight to keep it, it is an idol in our life.

Look at how Laban responds when his idols are taken from him. Know that guns are similar to Laban's idols in some American homes.

Genesis 31:19,34-37
Laban had gone to shear his sheep, and Rachel stole her father’s household gods.

Now Rachel had taken the household gods and put them in the camel’s saddle and sat on them. Laban felt all about the tent, but did not find them. And she said to her father, “Let not my lord be angry that I cannot rise before you, for the way of women is upon me.” So he searched but did not find the household gods. Then Jacob became angry and berated Laban. Jacob said to Laban, “What is my offense? What is my sin, that you have hotly pursued me? For you have felt through all my goods; what have you found of all your household goods? Set it here before my kinsmen and your kinsmen, that they may decide between us two.
 
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AustinC said:
Neither is anarchy
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straw man, however by the use of the word "neither" by you, you have acknowledged your view is not a conservative value. Thanks for the honesty.

and no regulation a conservative value.
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Uh yes when it comes to these direct rights established in the constitution you bet it is. It is currently regulated as is by the constitution. Not sure why that needs explaining.

In fact the argument about guns is not a human value at all. Guns are merely a tool. A one purpose tool. There is zero value in a tool.
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Wrong on all accounts. You can repeat this error all you want. Still will not make it true. You have been rightly corrected on this numerous times.

When we hold tightly to an object and fight to keep it, it is an idol in our life.
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Aaaa...nd nope! you do not know what an idol is.

Look at how Laban responds when his idols are taken from him. Know that guns are similar to Laban's idols in some American homes.
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Since you have revealed that you do not know what an idol is this is moot.
 
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Conan

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AustinC said:
Then get ready for the revocation of the 2nd Amendment, if people will not allow government to determine what type of gun a person can own.
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Why should a goverment tell me what kind of gun I can own? The second Says they can't specifically. I don't trust them. They are trying to outlaw many, many types of guns for no reason. They like crime so they can use it against us. The bid0n administration lets criminals get away with all kinds of crimes. If you haven't seen it, your in denial. A criminal caught with a firearm is suppose to get 5 years for being a felon with a gun but the obamo administration did not inforce that. They are only trying to ban law abiding citizens from owning guns, not criminals. They use criminals against us. By the way, to many people enjoy their freedom. The Second Amendment stands! Aussalt after aussalt fails. I can't help to ask but why would you see freedom fall.
You are dead wrong and siding with tyranny. Perhaps you wish to make criminals equal to us?

Although the worshippers of the god named "gun" will certainly fight it to the end. How could their god and idol be removed from them. :eek:
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Clearly you have some type of fear. Adversion to guns. Did someone commit a crime against you with one? It was not the guns fault. Someone was at fault, but it was not the guns fault.
 
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AustinC said:
Then get ready for the revocation of the 2nd Amendment, if people will not allow government to determine what type of gun a person can own.
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Absolutely! Everyone knows how responsible the Government is! When the same rulers who praise the murder of children in the womb say that they are outraged over gun violence, I take them at their word 100%.
 
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Revmitchell

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AustinC said:
Then get ready for the revocation of the 2nd Amendment, if people will not allow government to determine what type of gun a person can own.

Although the worshippers of the god named "gun" will certainly fight it to the end. How could their god and idol be removed from them. :eek:
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that would literally start a civil war
 
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I wish Biden was concerned about gun control when he left millions of rounds of ammunition and firearms for the Taliban to plunder. Golly, it's almost like it's all a political ploy...
 
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We use guns to protect the president and VIP's, We use guns to Protect celebrities, We use guns to protect us at stadiums, and theaters, and hospitals. But for our kids. we put a sign up that says gun free zone, then call someone with a gun when someone comes to shoot our kids..
 
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Conan said:
Why should a goverment tell me what kind of gun I can own? The second Says they can't specifically. I don't trust them. They are trying to outlaw many, many types of guns for no reason. They like crime so they can use it against us. The bid0n administration lets criminals get away with all kinds of crimes. If you haven't seen it, your in denial. A criminal caught with a firearm is suppose to get 5 years for being a felon with a gun but the obamo administration did not inforce that. They are only trying to ban law abiding citizens from owning guns, not criminals. They use criminals against us. By the way, to many people enjoy their freedom. The Second Amendment stands! Aussalt after aussalt fails. I can't help to ask but why would you see freedom fall.
You are dead wrong and siding with tyranny. Perhaps you wish to make criminals equal to us?



Clearly you have some type of fear. Adversion to guns. Did someone commit a crime against you with one? It was not the guns fault. Someone was at fault, but it was not the guns fault.
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the government wants gun control for one reason.

So they can prevent us as people from revolting when the government tries to become a socialist dictatorship.
 
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