How to Spot a Demonic Presence

[Yeshua1]

That media doesn't work for me (i'm at work so it's blocked btw). Which one is that? I can google it.

I'm shocked yet not so shocked by that Christian tarot card thing. That's scary that people actually believe and use those things!

The Movement Calminian referred is a crafty one. I don't believe people can heal the sick, only God heals and I think prayer helps a lot in that but people don't physically put their hands on someone and heals them. I don't believe in that.

What do you guys think about the Masonic Order and the Gideons? Some people say they are cult-like with their secret words and such but I mean, IDK my dad is apart of one of those lodges and I don't think there's any issue in it, but some people condemn it.

The Masons are Occultic group, into things that no Christian should get involved with, and they see all religions as being equal ways to God!

 

[Yeshua1]

I would never join a Masonic order. It's a weird ritualistic organization that is rather divorced from the bible. Freemasons don't have to be Christian, usually just believe in a supreme creator. Why join a secret society with bad theology that tries to act like a church. Just spend more time at your church or helping the ministry of God.

Freemasonry - Wikipedia

They see all religions as equals, as can have a Koran, or Bible as main text book for Lodge!

 

[Yeshua1]

It's the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). Andrew Strom specifically focuses on the laughter and jerking manifestations claimed to be from the Holy Spirit. He believes they are same manifestation occurring in kundalini cults.

Here's a comparison.

demon possession now called Holy laughter!

 

[Van]

So when people "play around: with likes of Ojibwa Board, tarot cards, witchcraft, astrology, then nothing demonic can happen to them, especially of not saved?

Yet another subject change question. What does scripture say about witchcraft?

You're just a negative person all around. I already told you if you don't believe that demon possession is a real issue in today's time, then you just need to leave. No one wants to hear your opinion, is anyone liknig yoru posts? No. So you're just trying to deflect from the truth. If you don't realize that the enemy is there and is throwing attacks our way (both believers and un) then you are giving THE ENEMY (not you, not any other of us believers) more power and weakening the body to ignorance.

Don't you think, also, that false teachers could simply be people who are being influence and/or possessed by demons who head the leaders in those false religions? Such as Islam, for example. Wouldn't you think that any terrorist that commits such dehumanizing acts (like cutting off a person's head for believing in our True God and Jesus Christ) and those who throw themselves into a US military vans with a bomb strapped to his chest isn't being heavily influence or even CONTROLLED by demonic forces?

I'm NOT saying that mankind can't commit sin on their own, but the evidence is there from the beginning that when Satan tempted Eve, he, being a demon, was he not an accomplice to the sin that made mankind fall (that he was not a key element)? Satan and demons tempt us to sin, and humans have the free will to resist to sin or to give in. But there comes a point where the person will willingly give themselves over to all sin and THEN that is when the demon can take control, since that person WILLFULLY gave themselves over to their sinful nature and thus allowed a demon to enter. Is all that I speak found in scripture? Perhaps not verbatim, but nothing I speak is from my own human wisdom, it is from what I have SEEN, and READ and OBSERVED from stories of the demonized, from demonized people I have talked and interacted with and the like. I have the mind of Christ, as we all can have if we pray for it (if you are a true converted believer) and HE (not me) gives me this wisdom. Jesus said He would send us a Helper, and that helps each one of us who believe to be able to not only live as Christ lived, but to see the world as HE sees it. The Evil, the Good, that is why when I look at a person I don't just see a nameless or blank face, I either see someone in Christ, in the Devil or Lost. And the LOST are who we need to focus on IMO, while taking support from fellow brothers and sisters and Christ and keeping the demonized, those who have given themselves to the Devil (aka demon possessed) at bay, to keep them contained if we can, to cast them out if it is God's plan to do so.

I am here to WARN, as John the Baptist came to warn the people to repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand, it is the job of us who KNOW and SEE that the demonic forces are actively trying to take the souls of the lost for themselves to WARN THESE PEOPLE TO PUT THEIR FAITH IN CHRIST SO THEY WILL NOT BE TEMPTED OR CONTROLLED. and people like YOU are weakening the body of Christ and putting the lost one's lives at danger. Just like we are commanded to SHARE THE GOSPEL to all nations, we are called to put on the WHOLE ARMOR OF GOD, to resist the Devil and his minions and to be a WARRIOR FOR CHRIST. You can do this by believing that the enemy is REAL and to put on FAITH, RIGHTEOUSNESS and above all PRAY and BE WATCHFUL for the adversary is prowling around like a lion seeing whom he can devour.

If you still are blind after reading through this and the people who have given their testimonies of the Evil inside people today, these demonized, then no amount of arguing or Christian wisdom will change your mind. You have hardened your heart, and I pray God can give eyes to see the Truth.

Folks, notice the ad hominems, the misrepresentations, the avoidance of biblical support?

Pay no attention to those whose agenda is to find fault with others based on non-biblical absurdity.

The future presence of demons will occur during end times according to scripture.

 

[Van]

It's not a falsehood. "I provided my view, waiting for a response" is simply ignoring my response.
Huh?
You mean like the view that you can mess around with the occult and not get burned? Yes, I'm very concerned about this false teaching you're espousing.
They are cheap counterfeits, is the point. They are so-called miracles.

On and on they ignore the evidence, alter scripture, and misrepresent viewpoints.

1) No quote was provided where I 'claimed victory." So yet another deflection using falsehood.
2) For you to claim the NT does not present the idea that the Church has been built on the foundation of the prophets and apostles, and it is not necessary to lay that foundation again is ludicrous.
3) Rather than worry about "demon possession" why not worry about "false teachers" who introduce destructive heresies
4) It is obvious "demons" will do miracles per scripture. Liberals add to scripture to make it to no effect.

 

[Calminian]

On and on they ignore the evidence, alter scripture, and misrepresent viewpoints.

Claiming victory yet again.

2) For you to claim the NT does not present the idea that the Church has been built on the foundation of the prophets and apostles.....

Delusion. I don't think anyone has any idea where you're getting this.

3) Rather than worry about "demon possession" why not worry about "false teachers" ...

False teachers...... like those that deny the dangers of the occult.

 

[Calminian]

....Folks, notice the ad hominems, the misrepresentations, the avoidance of biblical support? ....

Claiming victory yet again, with no support for his view whatsoever.

 

[Van]

Claiming victory yet again.

Misrepresenting viewpoints of others is the hall mark of false teachers.
On and on they ignore the evidence, and alter scripture.

1) No quote was provided where I 'claimed victory." So yet another deflection using falsehood.
2) For you to claim the NT does not present the idea that the Church has been built on the foundation of the prophets and apostles, and it is not necessary to lay that foundation again is ludicrous.
3) Rather than worry about "demon possession" why not worry about "false teachers" who introduce destructive heresies
4) It is obvious "demons" will do miracles per scripture. Liberals add to scripture to make it to no effect.
5) Note the denial the foundation has been laid by the prophets and apostles.

 

[Calminian]

And Van, we're all waiting for your positive case that demonic possession has ceased. Tick tock.

 

[Van]

And Van, we're all waiting for your positive case that demonic possession has ceased. Tick tock.

Did I say demonic possession has ceased? Once again, no quote.

Pharmakeia appears about 3 times in the NT, and an array of English words are used for translation. They pretty much miss the mark. If you look at the three verses, basically "deceptive use of drugs" is in view. Actual magic or supernatural possession is not in view.

 

[Calminian]

Did I say demonic possession has ceased? Once again, no quote.....

I think your position has been pretty clear. You're claiming the ceasing of gifts at the close of the cannon includes the ceasing of possession, and are requiring proof otherwise. But you've not even provided evidence of anything ceasing at the close of the cannon, let alone demon possession. You've not provided a single verse that even makes this claim.

 

[Miss E]

@Van you are a hopeless case who is wise in his own eyes

 

[Yeshua1]

On and on they ignore the evidence, alter scripture, and misrepresent viewpoints.

1) No quote was provided where I 'claimed victory." So yet another deflection using falsehood.
2) For you to claim the NT does not present the idea that the Church has been built on the foundation of the prophets and apostles, and it is not necessary to lay that foundation again is ludicrous.
3) Rather than worry about "demon possession" why not worry about "false teachers" who introduce destructive heresies
4) It is obvious "demons" will do miracles per scripture. Liberals add to scripture to make it to no effect.

false teachers and false prophets and false apostles do what? Teach "doctrines of demons"

 

[Miss E]

Another one is this webpage by a Lutheran minister. The video at the top is scary to watch.

Rick Joyner's Demonic Voodoo "Church" — Pirate Christian Media

That was just plain disturbing ! Blood of Jesus cover me from their deceitful practices

 

[Yeshua1]

That was just plain disturbing ! Blood of Jesus cover me from their deceitful practices

Just rely upon the person and power of the Holy Spirit indwelling you!

 

[Yeshua1]

Did I say demonic possession has ceased? Once again, no quote.

Pharmakeia appears about 3 times in the NT, and an array of English words are used for translation. They pretty much miss the mark. If you look at the three verses, basically "deceptive use of drugs" is in view. Actual magic or supernatural possession is not in view.

Supernatural activity really ramped up at time of Jesus, why not before time of His second coming? As this nation seems to be really into occultic practices, astrology, ghosts shows etc!

 

[Miss E]

Supernatural activity really ramped up at time of Jesus, why not before time of His second coming? As this nation seems to be really into occultic practices, astrology, ghosts shows etc!

Especially my friend who says she's a christian! She's into those Ghost Hunters shows and likes to go 'ghost hunting' I don't know how to tell her that she's only playing around with demonic forces doing that kind of stuff.

 

[Yeshua1]

Especially my friend who says she's a christian! She's into those Ghost Hunters shows and likes to go 'ghost hunting' I don't know how to tell her that she's only playing around with demonic forces doing that kind of stuff.

The big problem is that at times one can find them,selves "inviting" into their lives some unforeseen demonic activities!
Scriptures warn us against allowing the Devil a foothold into our lives!

 

[Miss E]

The big problem is that at times one can find them,selves "inviting" into their lives some unforeseen demonic activities!
Scriptures warn us against allowing the Devil a foothold into our lives!

The sad reality though is that I once joined her on some of her outings to ghost hunt. I was foolish and young in my naive beliefs in what those spirits actually was. But I don't know how to tell her to be careful now since I once approved of it myself.

 

[Calminian]

Ron Rhodes wrote a great book:
The Truth Behind Ghosts, Mediums, and Psychic Phenomena

He is hands down my favorite end-times author, but he's also a great apologist, and very good on this subject. I think you'll find it a blessing.

All these shows on TV, both documentary and fiction, are part of an actual comprehensive religious belief system. From Poltergeist to Sixth Sense to Ghost Whisperer, to Ghost Hunters, etc., the belief system is very consistent. Medium and psychic consultants are involved in all these projects from start to finish. I believe it's the religion of our day.