Mayor Pete grooms a 9 yr old on stage, for votes

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

You keep talking about scripture but never provide any. But whatever you bring up, I'm sure I've heard and addressed it before. I maintain that attraction itself is not a sin, but rather something that can lead to sin....just as it can with heterosexuals.

If you are addressing me and my comments, you are not speaking to them. I am concerned about Mayor Pete and others pushing the LGBTQ agenda onto children, seducing them and encouraging them into a lifestyle of sexual perversion.

 

[evenifigoalone]

If you are addressing me and my comments, you are not speaking to them. I am concerned about Mayor Pete and others pushing the LGBTQ agenda onto children, seducing them and encouraging them into a lifestyle of sexual perversion.

I'm addressing both you and the others.
I don't believe I share your concern, at least not to the same extent. Maybe I should be. But I'm not outraged nor surprised. The world operates like the world, who knew. I do hope some Godly SSA Christians can speak to the boy, and help and encourage him if he does deal with SSA.

 

[Benjamin]

The world operates like the world, who knew. I do hope some Godly SSA Christians can speak to the boy, and help and encourage him...

You just don't get it! That is more offensive than you hanging out with your like-minded friends and coming here with your apologetics to school us Christians. Like having a fox guard and protect the hen house! Give me a break with suggesting a 9 year old should be educated by a Christian SSA. Sick!!

 

[Yeshua1]

You just don't get it! That is more offensive than you hanging out with your like-minded friends and coming here with your apologetics to school us Christians. Like having a fox guard and protect the hen house! Give me a break with suggesting a 9 year old should be educated by a Christian SSA. Sick!!

1 Corinthians 6:11 states that they can once be that, and now be clean by blood of Jesus, correct?

 

[Wingman68]

SSA

I like the one.....Slip Slidin’ Away
Wasn’t that Simon & Garfunkle? Ah, the good ol’ days.

 

[evenifigoalone]

You just don't get it! That is more offensive than you hanging out with your like-minded friends and coming here with your apologetics to school us Christians. Like having a fox guard and protect the hen house! Give me a break with suggesting a 9 year old should be educated by a Christian SSA. Sick!!

Yes, because us side B SSA Christians are soooo bad, the way we don't have gay sex or partake in gay marriage and the way we keep ourselves chaste. Deeeeeefinitely the wrong person to instruct and be a mentor for someone who struggles with the same things at a young age. Oh noooooo

Cry me a river

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[Yeshua1]

Yes, because us side B SSA Christians are soooo bad, the way we don't have gay sex or partake in gay marriage and the way we keep ourselves chaste. Deeeeeefinitely the wrong person to instruct and be a mentor for someone who struggles with the same things at a young age. Oh noooooo

Cry me a river

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there has got to be some balance on this issue, as one side seems to be taking the view that one can never even have that kind of attraction/affection and be saved, other side is to just live and love, as they is the way God made us!

 

[Benjamin]

Yes, because us side B SSA Christians are soooo bad, the way we don't have gay sex or partake in gay marriage and the way we keep ourselves chaste. Deeeeeefinitely the wrong person to instruct and be a mentor for someone who struggles with the same things at a young age. Oh noooooo

Cry me a river

You are so brainwashed from the influences in your life that it is no problem for you to believe that this 9 year old boy was born to be attracted to the same sex that you beg the question that he should counseled by an adult of his same kind who is deeply rooted into your type of acceptance.

First of all, I do not assume nor accept any such thing! I believe most the time, almost all the time this type of behavior and/or acceptance is a choice. I don’t care about the fallacious Argument from Pity regarding who would want to choose such a thing. …they willingly do then look for excuses! Often this choice is related to various emotional and relational problems which has developed through sinful ideas being supported others who approve of and propagandize the behavior.

By suggesting that someone who claims to be a Christian and also claims to be born that way and had no choice should be able to use his influences to reinforce the ideas, THE LIES that have been put into a 9 year old child’s head that this type of behavior, something that shouldn’t even be on a 9 year old’s mind except for the widespread indoctrination of our youth from those within the LGBTQ community, only demonstrates that you agree with these influences, nothing more.

Let me be clear, I would doubt that claim from a confessed Christian that he had no choice because he was born that way. Probably 99% of so-called SSA Christians that have filled your head would make that claim. I do not accept this excuse as a truth. It not only defies logic but I‘ve personally witnessed in my lifetime the rise of this popular go-to argument as an excuse and the Argument from Pity which typically follows.

Further, I believe the vast majority of those who buy into this type of sinful supporting arguments are mentally disturbed and are typically encouraged from others with mental issues and perversions. You, young lady, are an example of someone with mental issues that has willingly adopted these arguments to confirm the path you are on.

Secondly, the Bible is full of instruction to stay away from, not partake with, to rebuke and forsake engaging in sin. You have taken the opposite approach and strive to build upon being a biblical apologist as you conform to these sinful worldly thoughts about who you are as a person.

Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Jas 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

2Ti 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; (4) And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Thirdly, once again, your arguments are nothing new to me. I have 2 children your age that came up through the public school system but also through my guidance and we have dealt with these arguments since kindergarten. My daughter used to come home crying about the attacks on her because of her disagreement with such issues as the agenda to accept homosexuality as normal as well as abortion but in the end she won many over and was blessed with the knowledge of the truth. I am experienced enough with these issues that I would wager that should I be given custody of that 9 old year old boy that I could totally renew his mind about these thoughts and turn him into an apologist against homosexuality in a month. So tell me HOW do you figure it is best that this young child should be instructed by someone who would merely wink at this type of behavior and beliefs instead of teach him WHY they are evil and wrong?!

I would tell you about my nephew that was on your bandwagon in a bigger way than you but it is a long story and I tire of this format.

I’ll stop there. I’ll not waste my time trying to nail your arguments down through an internet forum as you hide behind a keyboard. I much prefer these conversions in person where I serious doubt you would be bold enough to be mouthing of with statements like, “cry me a river” for your conclusions after you’ve avoided my arguments.

 

[evenifigoalone]

You are so brainwashed from the influences in your life that it is no problem for you to believe that this 9 year old boy was born to be attracted to the same sex that you beg the question that he should counseled by an adult of his same kind who is deeply rooted into your type of acceptance.

First of all, I do not assume nor accept any such thing! I believe most the time, almost all the time this type of behavior and/or acceptance is a choice. I don’t care about the fallacious Argument from Pity regarding who would want to choose such a thing. …they willingly do then look for excuses! Often this choice is related to various emotional and relational problems which has developed through sinful ideas being supported others who approve of and propagandize the behavior.

By suggesting that someone who claims to be a Christian and also claims to be born that way and had no choice should be able to use his influences to reinforce the ideas, THE LIES that have been put into a 9 year old child’s head that this type of behavior, something that shouldn’t even be on a 9 year old’s mind except for the widespread indoctrination of our youth from those within the LGBTQ community, only demonstrates that you agree with these influences, nothing more.

Let me be clear, I would doubt that claim from a confessed Christian that he had no choice because he was born that way. Probably 99% of so-called SSA Christians that have filled your head would make that claim. I do not accept this excuse as a truth. It not only defies logic but I‘ve personally witnessed in my lifetime the rise of this popular go-to argument as an excuse and the Argument from Pity which typically follows.

Further, I believe the vast majority of those who buy into this type of sinful supporting arguments are mentally disturbed and are typically encouraged from others with mental issues and perversions. You, young lady, are an example of someone with mental issues that has willingly adopted these arguments to confirm the path you are on.

Secondly, the Bible is full of instruction to stay away from, not partake with, to rebuke and forsake engaging in sin. You have taken the opposite approach and strive to build upon being a biblical apologist as you conform to these sinful worldly thoughts about who you are as a person.

Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Jas 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

2Ti 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; (4) And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Thirdly, once again, your arguments are nothing new to me. I have 2 children your age that came up through the public school system but also through my guidance and we have dealt with these arguments since kindergarten. My daughter used to come home crying about the attacks on her because of her disagreement with such issues as the agenda to accept homosexuality as normal as well as abortion but in the end she won many over and was blessed with the knowledge of the truth. I am experienced enough with these issues that I would wager that should I be given custody of that 9 old year old boy that I could totally renew his mind about these thoughts and turn him into an apologist against homosexuality in a month. So tell me HOW do you figure it is best that this young child should be instructed by someone who would merely wink at this type of behavior and beliefs instead of teach him WHY they are evil and wrong?!

I would tell you about my nephew that was on your bandwagon in a bigger way than you but it is a long story and I tire of this format.

I’ll stop there. I’ll not waste my time trying to nail your arguments down through an internet forum as you hide behind a keyboard. I much prefer these conversions in person where I serious doubt you would be bold enough to be mouthing of with statements like, “cry me a river” for your conclusions after you’ve avoided my arguments.

That's your perogative. We aren't going to come to an agreement. Also, I've taken your arguments head on. If I've ignored any, it's because they were just opinion pieces with no backing.

As for my last post, I did feel later that I should have used a more gentle response. I apologise

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[evenifigoalone]

Also, my mental health has nothing to do with my ability to reason?

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[Wingman68]

You are so brainwashed from the influences in your life that it is no problem for you to believe that this 9 year old boy was born to be attracted to the same sex that you beg the question that he should counseled by an adult of his same kind who is deeply rooted into your type of acceptance.

First of all, I do not assume nor accept any such thing! I believe most the time, almost all the time this type of behavior and/or acceptance is a choice. I don’t care about the fallacious Argument from Pity regarding who would want to choose such a thing. …they willingly do then look for excuses! Often this choice is related to various emotional and relational problems which has developed through sinful ideas being supported others who approve of and propagandize the behavior.

By suggesting that someone who claims to be a Christian and also claims to be born that way and had no choice should be able to use his influences to reinforce the ideas, THE LIES that have been put into a 9 year old child’s head that this type of behavior, something that shouldn’t even be on a 9 year old’s mind except for the widespread indoctrination of our youth from those within the LGBTQ community, only demonstrates that you agree with these influences, nothing more.

Let me be clear, I would doubt that claim from a confessed Christian that he had no choice because he was born that way. Probably 99% of so-called SSA Christians that have filled your head would make that claim. I do not accept this excuse as a truth. It not only defies logic but I‘ve personally witnessed in my lifetime the rise of this popular go-to argument as an excuse and the Argument from Pity which typically follows.

Further, I believe the vast majority of those who buy into this type of sinful supporting arguments are mentally disturbed and are typically encouraged from others with mental issues and perversions. You, young lady, are an example of someone with mental issues that has willingly adopted these arguments to confirm the path you are on.

Secondly, the Bible is full of instruction to stay away from, not partake with, to rebuke and forsake engaging in sin. You have taken the opposite approach and strive to build upon being a biblical apologist as you conform to these sinful worldly thoughts about who you are as a person.

Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Jas 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

2Ti 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; (4) And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Thirdly, once again, your arguments are nothing new to me. I have 2 children your age that came up through the public school system but also through my guidance and we have dealt with these arguments since kindergarten. My daughter used to come home crying about the attacks on her because of her disagreement with such issues as the agenda to accept homosexuality as normal as well as abortion but in the end she won many over and was blessed with the knowledge of the truth. I am experienced enough with these issues that I would wager that should I be given custody of that 9 old year old boy that I could totally renew his mind about these thoughts and turn him into an apologist against homosexuality in a month. So tell me HOW do you figure it is best that this young child should be instructed by someone who would merely wink at this type of behavior and beliefs instead of teach him WHY they are evil and wrong?!

I would tell you about my nephew that was on your bandwagon in a bigger way than you but it is a long story and I tire of this format.

I’ll stop there. I’ll not waste my time trying to nail your arguments down through an internet forum as you hide behind a keyboard. I much prefer these conversions in person where I serious doubt you would be bold enough to be mouthing of with statements like, “cry me a river” for your conclusions after you’ve avoided my arguments.

Thank you for speaking for me, without my having to put in the effort.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I'm addressing both you and the others.
I don't believe I share your concern, at least not to the same extent. Maybe I should be. But I'm not outraged nor surprised. The world operates like the world, who knew. I do hope some Godly SSA Christians can speak to the boy, and help and encourage him if he does deal with SSA.

OK, you have referred to my comments, but have yet to actually address them, unless it is to say you just don’t care. Mayor Pete claims to be who and already did what you hope for that boy. This is the problem in a nutshell.

This is not simply about that one boy, who was counseled in full view of everyone. The world is doing this to all the children publicly on the world stage, in the classrooms, in the media, via TV and movies, in the bathrooms, through the legal system, etc, etc. And they are doing it in a mode similar to their master Satan who masquerades as an angel of light, that is, as servants of righteousness. This is not surprising, but it is appalling and can and should be combatted through every legal means available as long as we have our constitutional republic.

 

[evenifigoalone]

OK, you have referred to my comments, but have yet to actually address them, unless it is to say you just don’t care. Mayor Pete claims to be who and already did what you hope for that boy. This is the problem in a nutshell.

This is not simply about that one boy, who was counseled in full view of everyone. The world is doing this to all the children publicly on the world stage, in the classrooms, in the media, via TV and movies, in the bathrooms, through the legal system, etc, etc. And they are doing it in a mode similar to their master Satan who masquerades as an angel of light, that is, as servants of righteousness. This is not surprising, but it is appalling and can and should be combatted through every legal means available as long as we have our constitutional republic.

No, Pete is side A. What I'd rather is that a side B SSA Christian were to counsel him

Side A = affirming, believing God blesses same sex unions
Side B = believes that SSA Christians are called to a life of celibacy and follows the traditional sexual ethic

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[RighteousnessTemperance&]

No, Pete is side A. What I'd rather is that a side B SSA Christian were to counsel him

Side A = affirming, believing God blesses same sex unions
Side B = believes that SSA Christians are called to a life of celibacy and follows the traditional sexual ethic

No, your "side A" and "side B" are not so recognized apart from your earlier "Godly" label. Those "affirming, believing God blesses same sex unions" consider themselves "Godly," not ungodly. And they have the voice, the platform to publicly, forcefully advance their agenda, and to exclude those who disagree. This is a major problem that is seriously damaging society and infiltrating the church, but is most damaging to children.

Maybe you said it somewhere, if so you can point it out, but what your "side B" needs to fully understand and publicly, forcefully stand for is that everyone who, for whatever reason, is SSA is called to live a life of celibacy or heterosexual monogamy. Living otherwise does not all of a sudden become a sin because one is a Christian.

 

[Yeshua1]

No, your "side A" and "side B" are not so recognized apart from your earlier "Godly" label. Those "affirming, believing God blesses same sex unions" consider themselves "Godly," not ungodly. And they have the voice, the platform to publicly, forcefully advance their agenda, and to exclude those who disagree. This is a major problem that is seriously damaging society and infiltrating the church, but is most damaging to children.

Maybe you said it somewhere, if so you can point it out, but what your "side B" needs to fully understand and publicly, forcefully stand for is that everyone who, for whatever reason, is SSA is called to live a life of celibacy or heterosexual monogamy. Living otherwise does not all of a sudden become a sin because one is a Christian.

One can be "side B: and be a Christian, correct?

 

[evenifigoalone]

Maybe you said it somewhere, if so you can point it out, but what your "side B" needs to fully understand and publicly, forcefully stand for is that everyone who, for whatever reason, is SSA is called to live a life of celibacy or heterosexual monogamy. Living otherwise does not all of a sudden become a sin because one is a Christian.

That's.... Literally the definition I gave? Side B believes gay sex and marriage is a sin


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[Yeshua1]

That's.... Literally the definition I gave? Side B believes gay sex and marriage is a sin


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Seems that we have a hard time finding a middle balance on this issue!

 

[Benjamin]

So-called “Side B” is just as bad in some ways and even worse in others. They can be wolves that infiltrate Christian circles and try to normalize their perversions while they teach their apologetics to all that will listen. I certainly would not have any of them instructing any children that were under my supervision and protective watch.

 

[Benjamin]

...what your "side B" needs to fully understand and publicly, forcefully stand for is that everyone who, for whatever reason, is SSA is called to live a life of celibacy or heterosexual monogamy.

That wouldn't fit their MO, they are too busy making excuses and wanting to help raise our children to know such perversions are normal and not their choice.

 

[evenifigoalone]

So-called “Side B” is just as bad in some ways and even worse in others. They can be wolves that infiltrate Christian circles and try to normalize their perversions while they teach their apologetics to all that will listen. I certainly would not have any of them instructing any children that were under my supervision and protective watch.

Lol, I doubt you ever heard of us before I brought it up

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