Mayor Pete grooms a 9 yr old on stage, for votes

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

That's.... Literally the definition I gave? Side B believes gay sex and marriage is a sin

No, so far what I am stating has been neither expressed or agreed to by you anywhere, or at least not here. So far, the only thing expressed was a Devil may care attitude, no real concern about it, which is an appalling "middle ground" like Y1 seems to seek.

The copout of shrugging the shoulders and saying 'The world acts like the world, so who cares?' is in the same perverse vein as doing nothing but saying, 'Well, boys will be boys,' when a group of them has brutally gang-raped a girl.

Along with abortion and child trafficking, this matter of indoctrinating and seducing the children into the Pedo-LGBTQ+ mindset and lifestyle is one of the gravest "social injustices" of our time.

 

[evenifigoalone]

No, so far what I am stating has been neither expressed or agreed to by you anywhere, or at least not here. So far, the only thing expressed was a Devil may care attitude, no real concern about it, which is an appalling "middle ground" like Y1 seems to seek.

The copout of shrugging the shoulders and saying 'The world acts like the world, so who cares?' is in the same perverse vein as doing nothing but saying, 'Well, boys will be boys,' when a group of them has brutally gang-raped a girl.

Along with abortion and child trafficking, this matter of indoctrinating and seducing the children into the Pedo-LGBTQ+ mindset and lifestyle is one of the gravest "social injustices" of our time.

No, I was clear, the confusion comes over the terms I used. Which to be fair, are not well known terms outside of our own circles. We are not a public lobby or entity with wide influence. I doubt anyone on this forum ever heard of the terms "side A" and "side B" before I began talking about them a few months ago.

What I meant when I said that I would want a godly SSA Christian to counsel the kids, is that if the boy does deal with SSA, then I would want for them to receive counseling from a side B SSA individual who would advise them to not act on such tendencies and how to deal with it spiritually as well.

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[Benjamin]

Lol, I doubt you ever heard of us before I brought it up

I’m not fooled or confused by new labels or euphemisms, but thanks for extra insight. I’m not picky, I will expose them in whatever form they wish to take to promote their indoctrinating agendas.

 

[evenifigoalone]

I’m not fooled or confused by new labels or euphemisms, but thanks for extra insight. I’m not picky, I will expose them in whatever form they wish to take to promote their indoctrinating agendas.

Whatever tickles your pickle. I sure ain't backing down

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[Benjamin]

What I meant when I said that I would want a godly SSA Christian to counsel the kids, is that if the boy does deal with SSA, then I would want for them to receive counseling from a side B SSA individual who would advise them to not act on such tendencies and how to deal with it spiritually as well.

Your "Side B SSA" needs to look for a new mission and pedal their wares elsewhere, we are neither buying nor willing to help you and yours open that door to our children. Hit the road!

Along with abortion and child trafficking, this matter of indoctrinating and seducing the children into the Pedo-LGBTQ+ mindset and lifestyle is one of the gravest "social injustices" of our time.

Very well said! 100% agreement.

 

[evenifigoalone]

Your "Side B SSA" needs to look for a new mission and pedal their wares elsewhere, we are neither buying nor willing to help you and yours open that door to our children. Hit the road!

Nope. Here to stay sweetcheeks

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[evenifigoalone]

Nope. Here to stay sweetcheeks

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Besides which, this is an open forum, meaning your views aren't the only ones allowed to be expressed here. What was it that one member told me..... That this is "the most open forum on the internet"? So, no, I am perfectly within my rights to stay.

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[Wingman68]

Besides which, this is an open forum, meaning your views aren't the only ones allowed to be expressed here. What was it that one member told me..... That this is "the most open forum on the internet"? So, no, I am perfectly within my rights to stay.

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It would be up to the moderators, not you, whether you stay. I have been flummoxed by who is allowed to stay at times. Your posts are consistant in peddling your position. It consumes seemingly 90% of your posts. You wear people out. Is that your mission? Then you get trigger happy when people don’t react the way you deem acceptable. ‘Tickle your pickle?? Sweetcheeks??’ Not appropriate. Keep it up & no one will be talking to you.

 

[evenifigoalone]

It would be up to the moderators, not you, whether you stay. I have been flummoxed by who is allowed to stay at times. Your posts are consistant in peddling your position. It consumes seemingly 90% of your posts. You wear people out. Is that your mission? Then you get trigger happy when people don’t react the way you deem acceptable. ‘Tickle your pickle?? Sweetcheeks??’ Not appropriate. Keep it up & no one will be talking to you.

If I see something, then yeah I'm going to chime in when it's something that's important to me. There's this topic, but there's also the topic of mental illness, addiction, etc that gets me going. They are topics that affect or have affected me, so they are important to me.

I am trying to be more charitable than previous, but it's hard when others do not extend the same courtesy. I have been on this forum at least six years and observed a lot of the nature of exchanges that take place (even when I didn't post often), so I somewhat expect people to be rude and crotchety. When you're surrounded by an atmosphere such as the one on this forum, it's difficult not to dish out the same treatment. I will do better.

At any rate, my views alone should not exclude me from posting here.

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[RighteousnessTemperance&]

No, I was clear, the confusion comes over the terms I used. Which to be fair, are not well known terms outside of our own circles. We are not a public lobby or entity with wide influence. I doubt anyone on this forum ever heard of the terms "side A" and "side B" before I began talking about them a few months ago.

There is no confusion over the "side" terms you use, just an obvious rejection of them by those intent on indoctrinating and seducing the children, which you seem bent on viewing as no big deal, which makes your "side B" look too much like your "side A" in the battle for the children. You may not like that result, but you should not only expect it, but expect that that will never change for those concerned for the children. To such, you will never look like a trustworthy ally, and for very good reason—you look too much like a spy, provocateur, or saboteur working for the enemy.

 

[evenifigoalone]

There is no confusion over the "side" terms you use, just an obvious rejection of them by those intent on indoctrinating and seducing the children, which you seem bent on viewing as no big deal, which makes your "side B" look too much like your "side A" in the battle for the children. You may not like that result, but you should not only expect it, but expect that that will never change for those concerned for the children. To such, you will never look like a trustworthy ally, and for very good reason—you look too much like a spy, provocateur, or saboteur working for the enemy.

If that's how you choose to see it, I suppose I can't stop you.
I would say that others who define themselves as side B may not have the same opinion as me (I have not asked the opinion of the side B group I am in of this particular issue), so I would encourage you to be willing to extend the benefit of a doubt for them at least. We are not a hive mind.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

If that's how you choose to see it, I suppose I can't stop you.
I would say that others who define themselves as side B may not have the same opinion as me (I have not asked the opinion of the side B group I am in of this particular issue), so I would encourage you to be willing to extend the benefit of a doubt for them at least. We are not a hive mind.

Who knows? I'm no Barnabas, but such a one might persuade me to reconsider the status of a supposedly converted Saul.

Those that begin publicly, forcefully, directly exposing the hypocrisy and lies of those bent on perverting the minds of the children may very well change minds about themselves, but it would not translate to a general acceptance nor ever entitle them to counsel children.

Exposing children to these issues is a root problem and growing worse, a grave evil causing major confusion for defenseless ones far too young to understand what is going on. Those unable to discern this, or not particularly concerned about it, should be nowhere near children no matter their "orientation."

 

[evenifigoalone]

I did bring up the question in my side B group out of curiosity, and their responses so far are making me reconsider my position somewhat.

I do work with children's ministry as a helper, and as the second adult that is there for liability issues. It's not as if it's my mission to tell kids about LGBT. Especially not without the permission of their parents.

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[Wingman68]

I did bring up the question in my side B group out of curiosity, and their responses so far are making me reconsider my position somewhat.

I do work with children's ministry as a helper, and as the second adult that is there for liability issues. It's not as if it's my mission to tell kids about LGBT. Especially not without the permission of their parents.

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I bet you are as diligent to bring the parents into that all consuming (to you) topic for discussion as you are here. You are being used by Satan. Step away from the children. Save yourself, & them. Does that sound crazy? No, what you have accepted as doing good for others, that is crazy. You know better, don’t be in denial.

 

[evenifigoalone]

I bet you are as diligent to bring the parents into that all consuming (to you) topic for discussion as you are here. You are being used by Satan. Step away from the children. Save yourself, & them. Does that sound crazy? No, what you have accepted as doing good for others, that is crazy. You know better, don’t be in denial.

No one at church knows I'm SSA, and I don't talk about it whatsoever

I mean, good lord, do you really think if I did that my church would let me be in children's ministry, or that the parents would complain, or something? Think for a second

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[Wingman68]

No one at church knows I'm SSA, and I don't talk about it whatsoever

I mean, good lord, do you really think if I did that my church would let me be in children's ministry, or that the parents would complain, or something? Think for a second

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Puhleeze....nearly every church has a problem in their children’s ministry at one time or another. Diligence should be the highest priority by the church as to who is allowed to tend to the children. People with ill intent (maybe not even consciously) are drawn to the children in the church atmosphere, where everyone wants to think that intentions are good, & the children don’t feel threatened like they might somewhere else. If my children were still young I would not want you influencing them. No one at church knows, you say, & that looks even worse for your reasoning of working with the children. I don’t want your obsession to become their obsession under the guise of Godliness. Sorry.

 

[Wingman68]

Oh, & the instant attraction Alexander has for your posts? Maybe there’s a future for you two, maybe we could morph this forum even further down the road that we seem to be going, into a Baptist dating site, what do ya think?!

 

[evenifigoalone]

Puhleeze....nearly every church has a problem in their children’s ministry at one time or another. Diligence should be the highest priority by the church as to who is allowed to tend to the children. People with ill intent (maybe not even consciously) are drawn to the children in the church atmosphere, where everyone wants to think that intentions are good, & the children don’t feel threatened like they might somewhere else. If my children were still young I would not want you influencing them. No one at church knows, you say, & that looks even worse for your reasoning of working with the children. I don’t want your obsession to become their obsession under the guise of Godliness. Sorry.

I'm not going to stop my work at church. Sorrynotsorry.


I am on no mission to """"indoctrinate"""" children, neither do I have any plans at any point to speak to them or their parents about SSA. That's up to their parents to address, if they so choose. If the topic ever comes up in adult Sunday school I may put in my two cents, but I will in no circumstances out myself or insert myself where I don't belong.

This is a discussion/debate forum, and I am allowed to speak. It is not my fault if people don't like what I have to say. Do you not think it's tiring for me to constantly have my salvation questioned and be dogged at every turn? If people insist on doing that, I can't stop them, but I am not going to let them succeed in pushing me off the forum.


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[Wingman68]

Blah, blah, pity, blah blah. You can’t see the forest for the trees. If you can’t see the negative of you mentoring children while you, yourself need mentoring & validation................You see, when children are involved, I don’t make excuses, I don’t compensate. I frankly don’t care about the feelings of adults over the need to protect innocent children, or in the case of women getting abortions to make their sad life enriched, they are wrong, & you are wrong. I’m not trying to push you off the forum, but I will speak my truth, as well.

 

[evenifigoalone]

Blah, blah, pity, blah blah. You can’t see the forest for the trees. If you can’t see the negative of you mentoring children while you, yourself need mentoring & validation................You see, when children are involved, I don’t make excuses, I don’t compensate. I frankly don’t care about the feelings of adults over the need to protect innocent children, or in the case of women getting abortions to make their sad life enriched, they are wrong, & you are wrong. I’m not trying to push you off the forum, but I will speak my truth, as well.

If that's how you choose to see it I cannot stop you. Good day brother.

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