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New Mandates for the Unvaxed MAY Be Coming

JonC

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So you are fine with the people the vaccines will injure and kill because it's more convenient for you? In the classic example of morality used on psychiatric examinations, if you answer it is ok to kill the few to save the many, you fail. You contend it's OK to kill some people to save others?
Your argument is flawed (you are advocating killing the many to mitigate risk to the few).

The risk of dying from a vaccine is 2500% lower than dying from covid.

If .05% is too small to demand concern then .002% is much too small for your concern.
 

JonC

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So start treating people at home immediately with alternative medications instead of sending them home to get really serious then Flooding the ER’s.
They won't. They do not believe they can get sick until they do, then they run to the system they do not trust to fix them.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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They won't. They do not believe they can get sick until they do, then they run to the system they do not trust to fix them.
Presumptuous of you to lump people into “they”... so how about those who can’t get vaccinated. Are “they” also included in your summation?
 

Reynolds

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Your argument is flawed (you are advocating killing the many to mitigate risk to the few).

The risk of dying from a vaccine is 2500% lower than dying from covid.

If .05% is too small to demand concern then .002% is much too small for your concern.
No. A person is a person. If the vaccine policy you support kills just one you have blood on your hands. What about the people who have blood clots and neurological damage from the vaccine you support making them take?
Its amazing how many good conservatives flip left when they face a little fear.
 

Revmitchell

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No. A person is a person. If the vaccine policy you support kills just one you have blood on your hands. What about the people who have blood clots and neurological damage from the vaccine you support making them take?
Its amazing how many good conservatives flip left when they face a little fear.

Ever notice all the lawyer ads on tv that say “you may be entitled to compensation” in reference to some drug that has been on the market for years then removed after being deemed unsafe?

They all had FDA approval
 

JonC

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No. A person is a person. If the vaccine policy you support kills just one you have blood on your hands. What about the people who have blood clots and neurological damage from the vaccine you support making them take?
Its amazing how many good conservatives flip left when they face a little fear.
No. The policy I support does not force vaccinations. It protects the responsible. Nobody has to get vacvinated, but at the same time we should not be forced to suffer for their decisions.

Why should the fear of a few outweigh the lives of the many?



I'm curious, would you support out government sending the military to Afghanistan to bring back out people Biden abandoned?
 

Andre

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Your argument is flawed (you are advocating killing the many to mitigate risk to the few).

The risk of dying from a vaccine is 2500% lower than dying from covid.

If .05% is too small to demand concern then .002% is much too small for your concern.
You are doing what, unsurprisingly, the anti-covid-vax crowd are not doing - addressing what matters: the risk-benefit trade-off between getting the vaccine and not getting it.

The other side has to screen out the covid risks and focus on the vaccine risks. Otherwise, they know their case is doomed.

This subtle screening out of important information is a standard tactic among those who do not debate matters fairly.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Well....the they that won't won't.
Why not... guess your not making such a compelling argument. So Biden needs to strong arm. Note that won’t work! Try taking the signed waver off the table. Show the US citizens you’re serious.
 

Reynolds

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No. The policy I support does not force vaccinations. It protects the responsible. Nobody has to get vacvinated, but at the same time we should not be forced to suffer for their decisions.

Why should the fear of a few outweigh the lives of the many?



I'm curious, would you support out government sending the military to Afghanistan to bring back out people Biden abandoned?
The U.S. numbers do not add up. We are the only country that has such a high unvaxed in ICU rate. The numbers are rigged. A nurse called in talk radio last week and said they listed all their Covid cases as unvaxed. They don't even ask. They just list them as unvaxed.

War is war. While nother story.
If you willing to handle this like war, just open everything up and reach herd immunity.
 

Reynolds

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No. The policy I support does not force vaccinations. It protects the responsible. Nobody has to get vacvinated, but at the same time we should not be forced to suffer for their decisions.

Why should the fear of a few outweigh the lives of the many?



I'm curious, would you support out government sending the military to Afghanistan to bring back out people Biden abandoned?
It forces vaccinations. Just like the Mark of the beast. You are not forced to take it. You just can't work, buy, sell, or trade without it. The vaccines are not the mark, but it is sure conditioning the weak minded sheep to line up for The Mark.
People sure give up essential liberty very easily if they are promised a small degree of perceived safety.
As soon as you give up your liberty, you line up in support of taking everyone else's.
 

Reynolds

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Why not... guess your not making such a compelling argument. So Biden needs to strong arm. Note that won’t work! Try taking the signed waver off the table. Show the US citizens you’re serious.
If the vaxes were so wonderful, people would not need forced into taking them. Covid is 99.97% survivable in my health group. Flu is deadlier.
I don't take flu shot, why Covid vax?
 

JonC

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Why not... guess your not making such a compelling argument. So Biden needs to strong arm. Note that won’t work! Try taking the signed waver off the table. Show the US citizens you’re serious.
I showed the US citizens I was serious by giving them 23 years service. I have nothing to prove to a few conspiracy theorists afraid of a shot.
 

JonC

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I thought you were talking about African Americans. "They" are the large group not getting vaxed.
No. My post was specific. "They" are the people who will not be vaccinated and will not consider being treated with the home remedies @Earth Wind and Fire suggested but will go to the doctors they do not trust if they become ill with covid.

I am not sure how you confused them with African Americans.
 

Reynolds

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No. My post was specific. "They" are the people who will not be vaccinated and will not consider being treated with the home remedies @Earth Wind and Fire suggested but will go to the doctors they do not trust if they become ill with covid.

I am not sure how you confused them with African Americans.
I didn't. I just had to say it. "They" is always racist nowadays.
 

JonC

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It forces vaccinations. Just like the Mark of the beast. You are not forced to take it. You just can't work, buy, sell, or trade without it. The vaccines are not the mark, but it is sure conditioning the weak minded sheep to line up for The Mark.
People sure give up essential liberty very easily if they are promised a small degree of perceived safety.
As soon as you give up your liberty, you line up in support of taking everyone else's.
It doesn't no more than requiring a CDL to drive a truck is forcing people to take physicals they do not want.

If you want to work for an employer requiring a vaccination then you need to be vaccinated.
 
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