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New Mandates for the Unvaxed MAY Be Coming

JonC

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The U.S. numbers do not add up. We are the only country that has such a high unvaxed in ICU rate. The numbers are rigged. A nurse called in talk radio last week and said they listed all their Covid cases as unvaxed. They don't even ask. They just list them as unvaxed.

War is war. While nother story.
If you willing to handle this like war, just open everything up and reach herd immunity.
Heard immunity is a myth. Look at the flu. As long as people can get sick the virus will mutate.
 

Reynolds

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Heard immunity is a myth. Look at the flu. As long as people can get sick the virus will mutate.
It's no more a myth than a vaccine that will work long term against a virus that has an animal reservoir to return.
 
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Earth Wind and Fire

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I showed the US citizens I was serious by giving them 23 years service. I have nothing to prove to a few conspiracy theorists afraid of a shot.
So you are saying your military record shows commitment to a greater good.... really!?!
 

JonC

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It's no more a myth than a vaccine that will work against a virus that has an animal reservoir to return.
Except viruses typically mutate within species.

Anyway, I don't care that much. Conspiracy theories often hurt those who hold them much more than society in general.

Now I'm getting fishing stuff ready for Clark's Hill tomorrow am. Me and the dog. Unless I decide to sleep in.
 

Reynolds

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Except viruses typically mutate within species.

Anyway, I don't care that much. Conspiracy theories often hurt those who hold them much more than society in general.

Now I'm getting fishing stuff ready for Clark's Hill tomorrow am. Me and the dog. Unless I decide to sleep in.
Fishing is OK right now. Will be great in about two more weeks.

There needs to be common sense.
Vaccine needs to be targeted by risk analysis. It does not stop transmission and by newest studies vax actually increases transmission. No need to be pressing 99.97% survivability into getting vaxed. My pro vax Doc told me that everyone he has seen in hospital with Covid had multiple comorbidities. He even told me "If you get it, you will probably be asymptomatic again to mildly symptomatic.".
Just use common sense. But the govt can't do that.
According to my antivax doc, a lot of the deaths are HIV patients. He said Covid causes even controlled and suppressed HIV to go crazy.
 

JonC

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By percentage Black Americans are highest unvaxed group. White is highest vaxed group
Blacks and Hispanics are less likely to be vaccinated, but of the unvaccinated 57% are White. Of those with at least one shot 60% are White. This us, of course, because of the racial makeup of the US.


Texas Lt. Gov. Patrick's False Claim About Unvaccinated Black People - FactCheck.org


In other words, by percentage Whites are tge largest unvaccinated and largest vaccinated group.
 

JonC

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The early estiment was 99.97% (that was not met). Then it was 99.95% for a while.

On average about 98.2% of known COVID-19 patients in the U.S. survive, but each individual’s chance of dying from the virus will vary depending on their age, whether they have an underlying health condition and whether they are vaccinated.

Important - that 98.2% survival rate includes vaccinated people. Unvaccinated covid patients die at a rate 1540% higher than vaccinated patients (the unvacvinated are 15.4 x more likely to die).

@Reynolds would have closer to an 80% survival rate and vaccinated people just shy of 100%.

Still....not bad odds until you think about numbers.

If unvacvinated people filled the Mercedes stadium to see a Falcons game and contracted covid, statistically over 14,000 would die.





As Adult ICU Patients Hit Record Highs for the Pandemic, New Report Shows Unvaccinated People Are More Than 15 Times More Likely to Die From COVID-19 Compared to Vaccinated People | NCDHHS
New data dashboard tracks COVID-19 risk for unvaccinated people compared to vaccinated people – PUBLIC HEALTH INSIDER
 

kathleenmariekg

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Actually in some areas, Hispanics rose to the highest percentage vaccinated AFTER the vaccine was available to EVERYONE in their area, AFTER the whites all had their chance, first. When the vaccines first came out, the Hispanic communities were having some of the highest death rates, while having the least access to the vaccine. They wanted to be immunized, but couldn't. When they got the chance, they did get it.

The percentage rates of African Americans has been more steady. They had more access than Hispanics initially. African Americans have more reason to not trust the system. They have been harmed more. Blacks born in other countries where NGO's show up to "help" and test out their new vaccines have even lower vaccination rates. When Africans and Haitians numbers are folded into statistics about African Americans, the percentage of unimmunized rises. In many communities, when door-to-door campaigns hit the slums, the Hispanics all line up, and the blacks don't.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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The early estiment was 99.97% (that was not met). Then it was 99.95% for a while.

On average about 98.2% of known COVID-19 patients in the U.S. survive, but each individual’s chance of dying from the virus will vary depending on their age, whether they have an underlying health condition and whether they are vaccinated.

Important - that 98.2% survival rate includes vaccinated people. Unvaccinated covid patients die at a rate 1540% higher than vaccinated patients (the unvacvinated are 15.4 x more likely to die).

@Reynolds would have closer to an 80% survival rate and vaccinated people just shy of 100%.

Still....not bad odds until you think about numbers.

If unvacvinated people filled the Mercedes stadium to see a Falcons game and contracted covid, statistically over 14,000 would die.





As Adult ICU Patients Hit Record Highs for the Pandemic, New Report Shows Unvaccinated People Are More Than 15 Times More Likely to Die From COVID-19 Compared to Vaccinated People | NCDHHS
New data dashboard tracks COVID-19 risk for unvaccinated people compared to vaccinated people – PUBLIC HEALTH INSIDER
Figures lie and liars figure
 
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