New meaning for old verses

On the basis He put forth in Scripture "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved".

Christ is the chosen Lamb slain before the foundation of the world. Those "in Christ" are therefore also chosen in the Lamb before the foundation of the world.

 

Love is not an emotion Web.
To quote DCTALK - "Love is a verb", and it is not a noun.

You must choose to love. There are times in our lives when we don't feel like we love but we continue IN Love regardless of emotions.

 

webdog said.

Webdog said...

What half do I not agree with?

 

I'm talking about your fictitious "looking down into time..." statment you always use.

 

I realize that...we still chose to love our wives nonetheless, no? It was said in jest, anyways...

 

It is very clear you do not.

Study human logic and behavior. Name any choice you have made, and I can trace it back to a love you have.

This is why man does not chose God..they love sin to much.

Therefore..God is not a choice to them

 

nope..try again. This was about "to salvation"

Looking down in time is not a verse

 

As Allan has already pointed out to you...love in itself is a choice. If they love sin too much, that in itself is a choice between two things, so your human logic and reasoning is already flawed to begin with.

 

You are correct James.

It states chosen because you have believed me.

 

Love is a learned behavior. You cannot love a Yaho Macho bean, till you know what one is.

One cannot love God till they know God.

 

What verse says "chosen without believing Me"?

 

Give me your verse....

I'll give you mine. My verse says chosen that you may know me and believe me

Your verse that says what you just said is??

 

Don't turn it around. Game stops here.

I would like to see this verse...

"It states chosen because you have believed me."

 

According to Eph. 2:4-6, God is the one who made both Jews and Gentiles alive. And this He alone did through His sovereign electing grace (v.4; 1:4, 5).

 

Webdog,

Are you one of those who believe that God saves the Jews different to how He saves the Gentiles?

 

No James, I said:

To say one is resposible without the abilty to respond is using no common sense.
The word 'responsible' is derived for their 'ability' and their ability to act thus make them resposible.

What you have in Calvinism regarding it's version of responsiblity is the denial of that which gives it any value - ability. Look up their definitions and you will see they both go hand in hand.

No, you only took a portion of what I said and THAT made it wrong.
Calvinism view of 'responsiblity' is not even in accordance with what the word means in any language.

Actaully God has to make them a completely new nature so that they CAN NOT do anything except believe. That is using alot of force don't you think

 

I thought chapters 43 - 45 were dealing with Israel, hence "witnesses"

 

I think regeneration preceding faith is a different subject for a different thread.