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North Carolina Council of Churches Pits 2nd Commandment vs. 2nd Amendment

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Bro. Curtis

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1689Dave said:
I learned not to judge others' motives. We can judge their works. But when we judge motives, we condemn ourselves by revealing our own motives. But we need to realize, all do not have the same motives as we do.
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LOL.

Let’s do an honesty test. Then I can move forward. If you’re not going to be honest about who you are I see no reason to let go of my convictions.

Are you Crabtownboy returning as someone else ?

You can give any answer you want, but if you want what you say you want, this should be no problem for you.
 
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Bro. Curtis said:
LOL.

Let’s do an honesty test. Then I can move forward. If you’re not going to be honest about who you are I see no reason to let go of my convictions.

Are you Crabtownboy returning as someone else ?

You can give any answer you want, but if you want what you say you want, this should be no problem for you.
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““Do not judge so that you will not be judged.For by the standard you judge you will be judged, and the measure you use will be the measure you receive.” (Matthew 7:1–2) (NET)

Why do I feel so hated by you?
 
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I think you’re a liar. And you bringing obedience to Jesus into it to hide your lie is pretty disgusting.
 
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Brief history.

New guy makes inane remark about “assault” weapons. Using quote function I ask him what an “assault weapon” is. Question goes ignored.

New guy makes claim that US foreign policy has killed as many as abortion has. Using quote function I ask him to back this up. Question goes unanswered.

New guy frames questions the same way banned guy did. New guy does not discuss theology, he repeats mantras. Just like banned guy did.

New guy claims total pacifism even the the most gruesome cases and claims others are carnal for not doing likewise. Just like banned guy.

New guy sidesteps the question of if he is banned guy or not.

I was not the only one who thinks this bit I am the only one who says it.

His foot will slide in due time.....
 
1689Dave

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Bro. Curtis said:
Brief history.

New guy makes inane remark about “assault” weapons. Using quote function I ask him what an “assault weapon” is. Question goes ignored.

Definition of assault weapon
: any of various automatic or semiautomatic firearms; especially : assault rifle https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assault weapon

New guy makes claim that US foreign policy has killed as many as abortion has. Using quote function I ask him to back this up. Question goes unanswered.

If you consider the wars of aggression launched by the US, especially by the Neo-Conservatives based on lies, WMDs etc. the numbers killed rival or exceed those they also kill by abortion.

New guy frames questions the same way banned guy did. New guy does not discuss theology, he repeats mantras. Just like banned guy did.

If I cannot back what I say from the bible, it is opinion, and I always discipline myself to keep the two separate.

New guy claims total pacifism even the the most gruesome cases and claims others are carnal for not doing likewise. Just like banned guy.

If you can back your views on violence from the NT, I would welcome them and possibly embrace them.

New guy sidesteps the question of if he is banned guy or not.

I am not CrabtownBoy. But would like to read his posts to see what you are talking about.

I was not the only one who thinks this bit I am the only one who says it.

Free Speech is the greatest defence we have. But sometimes others stifle it.

His foot will slide in due time.....
I always pray before I post asking God for wisdom and that he would be glorified in what I say.
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Bro. Curtis said:
Brief history.
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What if the reason why self-defense was not explicitly condoned in the NT was because it would never have occurred to anybody that people would argue against the morality of defending their own person, home and family from a criminal?

When Jesus and the apostles died, wasn't it agents of the state who did them in? Had they defended themselves under those circumstances they would have been violent revolutionaries, then. That would have sent a different message.

It would have made no sense for them to have allowed a random criminal to cut their heads off while they were still trying to spread the Word. That would not have been martyrdom and would not have carried the same message of being willing to die for the sake of the faith.

Are there any NT examples of passivity and submission in the face of random criminals (as opposed to agents of the state)?
 
1689Dave

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I Love An Atheist said:
What if the reason why self-defense was not explicitly condoned in the NT was because it would never have occurred to anybody that people would argue against the morality of defending their own person, home and family from a criminal?
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Remember, Paul fell among thieves and countrymen. Many times the Jews, not Romans who were in control of the government, beat him leaving him for dead. If I could justify Christian violence from the NT, I would probably think in those terms, and try to interpret scripture that way too. But I cannot justify violence in self defence if if I love my enemies.
 
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