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orthodox Theology affirms the bodily physical resurrection of Jesus and us!

 

Jesus affirmed that he was physically resurrected, and Bible affirms that he will be bring us back with Him to experience same physical resurrection at his second coming!

 

he seems to be stating laid aside that flesh and humanity, and just God again now!

 

Mat 27:51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
Mat 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
Mat 27:53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

 

Do not think that they were in glorified bodies though!

 

Why not? They're the first fruits and raised on this side of the cross. They were thereafter led on high by Christ (Eph.4).

 

It is my understanding He now as a man in His resurrected human body is fleah and bone, Luke 24:39, no longer flesh and blood, 1 Corinthians 15:50.

 

Same body that he was born in, just now glorified!

 

Jesus is the first fruit of the resurrection. He had not been resurrected at that point. Like Lazarus, those saints died afterward.

peace to you

 

I would have thought the man after God's own heart would have been with them yet he wasn't. Acts 2:29

 

What does "the days of His flesh" mean?

for the soul of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that maketh atonement for the soul. Lev 17:11 Darby
And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we have contemplated his glory, a glory as of an only-begotten with a father), full of grace and truth; John 1:14
but when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, come of woman, come under law, Gal 4:4

for the soul of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it (The Blood) to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that maketh atonement for the soul. Lev 17:11 Darby

see my hands and my feet, that I am he; handle me and see, because a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me having.' Luke 24:39 YLT------------ No Blood--- What is the soul of the flesh now in?

because also Christ once for sin did suffer -- righteous for unrighteous -- that he might lead us to God, having been put to death indeed, in <to or unto) the (dative> flesh, and having been made alive in <to or unto) the (dative > spirit,

To date only one living soul born of woman has been raised from out of the dead in the following manner therefore it applies to the last Adam, Christ.
so also it hath been written, 'The first man Adam became a living creature,' the last Adam is for a life-giving spirit, but that which is spiritual is not first, but that which was natural, afterwards that which is spiritual.

Flesh and blood did not inherit the kingdom of God but flesh (spiritual) and bones did.
in these last days did speak to us in a Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He did make the ages; Heb 1:2 YLT
having become so much better than the messengers, as he did inherit a more excellent name than they. For to which of the messengers said He ever, 'My Son thou art -- I to-day have begotten thee?' and again, 'I will be to him for a father, and he shall be to Me for a son?' Heb 1:4,5 YLT

and if children, also heirs, heirs, indeed, of God, and heirs together of Christ -- if, indeed, we suffer together, that we may also be glorified together. Rom 6:17 YLT
and each in his proper order, a first-fruit Christ, afterwards those who are the Christ's, in his presence, 1 Cor 15:23 YLT

 

Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 1 Cor 15:51-53

Have they experienced that? Must they experience that? If yes, why must they experience that? Can they be construed as being evermore with the Lord without experiencingthat See 1 Thes 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1 Cor 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

What is on one side of, "then," and what is on the other side?

For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked. 2 Cor 5:1-3

Do Named souls, kinetic being's, Larry, Curly and Mo or Moses and David if you will, require a house either temporary and or permanent?

 

Yes, as only Jesus has been glorified so far!

 

[Luke 16:22-26 NASB] 22 "Now the poor man died and was carried away by the angels to Abraham's bosom; and the rich man also died and was buried. 23 "In Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 "And he cried out and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame.' 25 "But Abraham said, 'Child, remember that during your life you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus bad things; but now he is being comforted here, and you are in agony. 26 'And besides all this, between us and you there is a great chasm fixed, so that those who wish to come over from here to you will not be able, and [that] none may cross over from there to us.'

• Physical forms are carried, non-corporeal spirits are not.
• Physical eyes are implied
• A physical finger is explicitly stated.
• Physical water is explicitly stated.
• A physical tongue is explicitly stated.
• (Placing water on a tongue with a finger supports the eyes looking up also being physical)
• The agony appears to be real, as does the flame ... which suggests a real body suffering real pain in real fire.
• A great chasm is a physical obstacle that would only stop physical bodies. Spirits are able to cross chasms.

There is most definitely far more than a "hint" of physicality in this story.
My objection stands, why would Jesus deliberately misrepresent the afterlife if he knew that there was no physical form beyond death?

 

The angels at the tomb of Jesus were said to look like men.

peace to you