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Your paradigm only allows for one application for wrath and expiation, whereas scripture speaks of two for each.

 

Until you read the Bible to understand that this is in fact the "Atoning Sacrifice" of "the Day of Atonement" - as we see in Lev 16. And that the entire process of "Atonement" as GOD describes it - includes BOTH Christ's work as our "Atoning Sacrifice" AND Christ's work as our High Priest.

The very thing Calvinism fears - because it allows for an UNLIMITED Atoning Sacrifice at the cross 1 John 2:2 - with a LIMITED Atonement result for just the saved -- which is Arminian doctrine not Calvinist.

Thus the lost are under judgment and condemnation until they accept God's Gospel solution.

WERE you a child of wrath as Paul said HE was at one time??

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3 among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.

Were you "by nature a child of wrath" before you were saved in real life? on this actual earth? or is Paul simply "wrong"??
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John 1 "He came to HIS OWN and HIS OWN received Him not" God's effort was towards them -- his Sovereign initiative.

He who is the "Atoning Sacrifice for OUR sins and not for OUR sins only but for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD" 1 John 2:2

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As we all know by now -- you will insist that this gets posted "again".

 

Step 1 when posting - read the OP and respond to something in it.


For those who do not want to read very much - here is a short sermon plan for the truth 4 and 5 point Calvinist presentation

in Christ,

Bob

 

It is legitimate. Your introductory remarks were incorrect as I noted.

You said the following:

No one os saved by belief in Calvinism or even belief in TULIP/Calvinism. The OP is nonsensical!

I could quote John 3:16 but I believe you know it!

 

His obsession with 'Calvinism' is nonsensical. Does he really think his petty objections and misrepresentations to Sovereign Grace is going to make it go away?

.....and I don't even know why I'm wasting my time posting on this thread, because I'm really not the least interested in the controversy any longer. To me, synergism is ENTRY LEVEL Christian doctrine, monergism is more ADVANCED Christian doctrine, and neither has zilch to do with being a good Christian. Pleasing the Lord has everything to do with being a good Christian, not what you have straight or correct in your head.

 

His example "honest" Calvinist sermon illustrates the point of the huge failure in Calvinism's attempt at Evangelism WHEN Calvinism is the "truth" presented for the evangelist's "appeal".

 

If you're so concerned with evangelism why spend so much time on this board among saved folk? There's bookoo other things you could be doing to get folks into heaven other than lolly-gagging on this site.

 

In Rev 3:20 we see that not everyone in the church is saved - I thought we all agreed on that obvious point by now.

However I think I do see your point that from a Calvinist POV it is either Calvinism .... or ... evangelism.

 

I'm not a Calvinist.

 

I have it from good sources this fellow is part of your ancestry....




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Well, he does kinda favor a picture of my great, great, great uncle from Harlan!

 

Oh, so you're here to get us unsaved folk on the BB saved, right?

So what do we have to do to be saved according to your formula, keep Saturday holy and become vegetarians?

Please, by all means, tell me what you think I need to do to fit your model of 'saved'.

 

Willis, you need to learn how to reduce the size of images. You've screwed this page up.

 

I gave you several real Cal sermons...have you commented on them yet?

 

One cannot be in a saved state if they don't believe the Gospel, and the Truths of Tulip are the Gospel !