Prolife myth

[OldRegular]

You are letting emotion interpret Scripture.

I don't think it is emotion at all, though I do not like it when people use the term "make a liar out of God" or similar expressions. I posted the following earlier {post #26} but have added emphasis:

Scripture tells us:

Romans 3:23. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Romans 5:12. Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

I believe that the doctrine of inherited sin nature is Biblical, that every person born into this world will sin and is therefore no longer innocent. I believe the unborn child or the just born child or very young children are innocent.

You asked the question {post #27}:

Prove from Scripture that an unborn child or the just born child or the very young children have not inherited the sin nature.

But as you see above I did not say the unborn child does not inherit the sin nature. I said

that every person born into this world will sin and is therefore no longer innocent

I do not believe that unborn children or just born children can sin. Zaac and others apparently take exception to that viewpoint. I then made the following post {#38}:

And just how does an unborn child sin?

It is not a question of will they sin. If they live long enough they will sin as we all do! So far no one has told me how an unborn child or just born child can sin!

 

[Don]

Not that it means anything, or that anyone cares; but I'm anti-abortion.

 

[Zaac]

I don't think it is emotion at all, though I do not like it when people use the term "make a liar out of God" or similar expressions.

Man, Scripture doesn't give a flying hoot about what YOU don't like. Just like with abortion, you think the truth needs your okay to be truth.:laugh:

God says "For ALL have sinned". You don't believe newly born babies and babies in the womb have sinned. So one is led to believe that you don't truly believe that unborn babies are part of God's ALL.

And thus your errant understanding has positioned unborn babies to not be part of the ALL, and will probably give someone justification for it being okay to kill an unborn baby.

And that's the crazy part. You don't even recognize that your denial of the truth, even if you don't know or understand the why, is opening up a justification for killing unborn babies.

Looks like you're starting your own party of death.

 

[poncho]

It is nothing but political talking points by the left to include some on this board. No one actually believes it but they are trying to create this public perception.

Far be it from you to try to create public perception. :laugh:

"Russia invaded Ukraine!" Russia is shelling Ukraine!" "Russian aggression! Russian aggression! Russian aggression!"

Got proof?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re72di5phM0

I take it that means you got no proof huh?

"yeah I got proof alright my proof is you're a delusional conspiracy theorist!!!"

Right. Like I said you got no proof.

Y'all might appear a bit more pro life and compassionate if ya quit beating them war drums to death. Might also help if y'all quit falling for the same old lies time after time after time after time . . . just sayin.

 

[OldRegular]

Not that it means anything, or that anyone cares; but I'm anti-abortion.

I care and I believe others on this Forum care.

 

[OldRegular]

Man, Scripture doesn't give a flying hoot about what YOU don't like. Just like with abortion, you think the truth needs your okay to be truth.:laugh:

God says "For ALL have sinned". You don't believe newly born babies and babies in the womb have sinned. So one is led to believe that you don't truly believe that unborn babies are part of God's ALL.

And thus your errant understanding has positioned unborn babies to not be part of the ALL, and will probably give someone justification for it being okay to kill an unborn baby.

And that's the crazy part. You don't even recognize that your denial of the truth, even if you don't know or understand the why, is opening up a justification for killing unborn babies.

Looks like you're starting your own party of death.

Zaac; Boy you sure do rant and rave a lot but can you answer a simple question. Do you believe it is wrong, sinful, to slaughter unborn children before they are born?

 

[Zaac]

Zaac; Boy you sure do rant and rave a lot but can you answer a simple question. Do you believe it is wrong, sinful, to slaughter unborn children before they are born?

Do you include the unborn in the ALL?

 

[OldRegular]

Zaac; Boy you sure do rant and rave a lot but can you answer a simple question. Do you believe it is wrong, sinful, to slaughter unborn children before they are born?

Do you include the unborn in the ALL?

I thought so, just like Crabbie! You support Obama and the leftist democrats and have no problem with slaughtering unborn children.

Tell us Zaac do all the children slaughtered in their mothers womb go to hell!

Well God says the unborn do neither good or evil:

Romans 9:11. (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth)

 

[Zaac]

Do you include unborn babies in the ALL, Oldregular? God says ALL. Are you now telling us that unborn babies aren't part of the ALL?

If they aren't, you don't have a leg to stand on for why they shouldn't be aborted.

 

[OldRegular]

Do you include unborn babies in the ALL, Oldregular? God says ALL. Are you now telling us that unborn babies aren't part of the ALL?

If they aren't, you don't have a leg to stand on for why they shouldn't be aborted.

God says the unborn do neither good or evil:

Romans 9:11. (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth)

You are just like CTB, you are a hypocrite. You support the continued slaughter of unborn children:

1. Possibly because your idol Obama is the abortionist in chief.

2. Possibly because you are a leftist democrat.

3. Possibly because you believe they are not yet human.

4. Possibly because you simply don't care.

5. Possibly for some other devilish reason I can't fathom.

Then you hypocritically moan and groan over 1 billion Muslims who worship a false god. Hypocrisy at its worst!

You really need to do something other than contemplate your navel and hum!

 

[just-want-peace]

God says the unborn do neither good or evil:

Romans 9:11. (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth)

You are just like CTB, you are a hypocrite. You support the continued slaughter of unborn children:

1. Possibly because your idol Obama is the abortionist in chief.

2. Possibly because you are a leftist democrat.

3. Possibly because you believe they are not yet human.

4. Possibly because you simply don't care.

5. Possibly for some other devilish reason I can't fathom.

Then you hypocritically moan and groan over 1 billion Muslims who worship a false god. Hypocrisy at its worst!

You really need to do something other than contemplate your navel and hum!

SPOT ON!!!

 

[OldRegular]

SPOT ON!!!

Thanks! I needed that!

 

[Zaac]

So Old Regular, are unborn babies included in the ALL?

 

[OldRegular]

So where did this myth that prolife equals "lacking in compassion" and proabortion equals "caring for others" come from?

It brings to mind Isaiah 5:20

It comes from people like CTB and Zaac!

 

[Zaac]

It comes from people like CTB and Zaac!

Don't try to blame your regular brand of nastiness on us. It comes from your unGodly attitude.

Now are unborn babies included in the ALL that have sinned or not?

 

[OldRegular]

Don't try to blame your regular brand of nastiness on us. It comes from your unGodly attitude.

Now are unborn babies included in the ALL that have sinned or not?

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I have answered your mantra Zaac. I even enlarge the print so you can read it! You can quit humming now!

God says the unborn do neither good or evil:

Romans 9:11. (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth)

You are just like CTB, you are a hypocrite. You support the continued slaughter of unborn children:

1. Possibly because your idol Obama is the abortionist in chief.

2. Possibly because you are a leftist democrat.

3. Possibly because you believe they are not yet human.

4. Possibly because you simply don't care.

5. Possibly for some other devilish reason I can't fathom.

Then you hypocritically moan and groan over 1 billion Muslims who worship a false god. Hypocrisy at its worst!

You really need to do something other than contemplate your navel and hum!

 

[Zaac]

Your reluctance to answer the question shows that you don't give a rat's behind about abortion other than as a political tool.

 

[padredurand]

Your reluctance to answer the question shows that you don't give a rat's behind about abortion other than as a political tool.

The man adopted TWO unwanted children. Be rational, Zaac. You and others have co-opted the term pro-life and twisted it into a convoluted babbling of nonsense. OR has been accused of not caring for these unwanted after their birth. HE ADOPTED TWF THEM. What is wrong with you, man?

OR didn't take your question on directly so I will. Do I include the unborn in the ALL of "... for all have sinned..."? I do not for one simple reason: the are unborn. With the exception of some amazing medical intervention these children cannot survive outside of their mother's womb. They are incapable of anything beyond fetal development in the once-protective environment of the mother's womb.

 

[Zaac]

The man adopted TWO unwanted children. Be rational, Zaac. You and others have co-opted the term pro-life and twisted it into a convoluted babbling of nonsense. OR has been accused of not caring for these unwanted after their birth. HE ADOPTED TWF THEM. What is wrong with you, man?

There are scores of people who have adopted unwanted children. Yet he has labeled them slaughterers of the unborn. Did you speak to that or his his other pejoratives for anyone who doesn't support his party or their views?

So until you do, you can save your intercessory rescue.

OR didn't take your question on directly so I will. Do I include the unborn in the ALL of "... for all have sinned..."? I do not for one simple reason: the are unborn. With the exception of some amazing medical intervention these children cannot survive outside of their mother's womb. They are incapable of anything beyond fetal development in the once-protective environment of the mother's womb.

If they aren't part of the ALL, then both you and he need to just be quiet about slaughtering or aborting or whatever you want to call it.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Zaac is in the clique that makes it impossible for him to take a stance against Crabtownboy and anyone else peddling this nonsense. You cannot have a rational discussion with hatred.