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Regarding Romans 3:25 ...

Yeshua1

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Utter nonsense repeated again and again.
He does not know it is God's will to credit our faith as righteousness, he denies Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24.

Y1 has no idea that under the wings of Christ we are sheltered from the wrath of God, even toward our misses while under His shelter. Christ became our means of salvation from the wrath of God toward our sins, past, present and future. Try taking your Calvinist glasses off and just reading Romans 3:24-25. But the shelter is accessible only through or on the basis of our faith being credited as righteousness by God.

being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;
whom God displayed publicly as the means of salvation in His blood accessible through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;

Note that we are chosen for salvation based on faith according to scripture, James 2:5, but the Calvinist denies it.
Its based upon the will of God, and upon the Cross of Christ!
 

Van

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Its based upon the will of God, and upon the Cross of Christ!
On and on the falsehoods are posted. Read James 2:5 and accept scripture, God chose those "rich in faith and heirs to the kingdom promised to those who love God." Thus the will of God is to choose based on God crediting the person's faith as righteousness.

Pay no attention to those who deny scripture after scripture.
 

Yeshua1

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On and on the falsehoods are posted. Read James 2:5 and accept scripture, God chose those "rich in faith and heirs to the kingdom promised to those who love God." Thus the will of God is to choose based on God crediting the person's faith as righteousness.

Pay no attention to those who deny scripture after scripture.
Does God impart to us the righteousness of Jesus Christ, or based upon our own faith?
 

Van

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Does God impart to us the righteousness of Jesus Christ, or based upon our own faith?
Yet another change the subject question, to hide that Calvinism denies God credits our faith as righteousness.
It is God's will to credit the faith of people as righteousness. Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24 We are chosen for salvation based on God crediting our faith as righteousness.
 

Yeshua1

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Yet another change the subject question, to hide that Calvinism denies God credits our faith as righteousness.
It is God's will to credit the faith of people as righteousness. Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24 We are chosen for salvation based on God crediting our faith as righteousness.
Did God choose us before or after faith was placed in Jesus though?
 

Van

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Did God choose us before or after faith was placed in Jesus though?
Did you answer my question? Why do you think Jesus said do unto others as you would have them do unto you? Does God credit the faith of some people as righteousness, as taught in Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24?
Does God place some people whose faith has been credited as righteousness in Christ?
Does James 2:5 say that God chooses those "rich in faith?"

The number of verses that must be nullified in order to believe Yeshua1 is large and obvious.
 

Yeshua1

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Did you answer my question? Why do you think Jesus said do unto others as you would have them do unto you? Does God credit the faith of some people as righteousness, as taught in Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24?
Does God place some people whose faith has been credited as righteousness in Christ?
Does James 2:5 say that God chooses those "rich in faith?"

The number of verses that must be nullified in order to believe Yeshua1 is large and obvious.
Why is it that you keep hiding behind your misunderstandings, and refuse to give any straight answers at all?
 

Van

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Why is it that you keep hiding behind your misunderstandings, and refuse to give any straight answers at all?
Did you answer my question? Why do you think Jesus said do unto others as you would have them do unto you? Does God credit the faith of some people as righteousness, as taught in Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24?
Does God place some people whose faith has been credited as righteousness in Christ?
Does James 2:5 say that God chooses those "rich in faith?"

The number of verses that must be nullified in order to believe Yeshua1 is large and obvious.
 

Yeshua1

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Did you answer my question? Why do you think Jesus said do unto others as you would have them do unto you? Does God credit the faith of some people as righteousness, as taught in Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24?
Does God place some people whose faith has been credited as righteousness in Christ?
Does James 2:5 say that God chooses those "rich in faith?"

The number of verses that must be nullified in order to believe Yeshua1 is large and obvious.
Where did that saving faith originate from, God or yourself?
 

Van

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Where did that saving faith originate from, God or yourself?

Note Y1 answers questions with questions and smears and false charges.

1) Why do you think Jesus said do unto others as you would have them do unto you?
2) Does God credit the faith of some people as righteousness, as taught in Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24?
3) Does God place some people whose faith has been credited as righteousness in Christ? 1 Peter 2:9-10
4) Does James 2:5 say that God chooses those "rich in faith?"

The number of verses that must be nullified in order to believe Yeshua1 is large and obvious.
 

Yeshua1

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Note Y1 answers questions with questions and smears and false charges.

1) Why do you think Jesus said do unto others as you would have them do unto you?
2) Does God credit the faith of some people as righteousness, as taught in Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24?
3) Does God place some people whose faith has been credited as righteousness in Christ? 1 Peter 2:9-10
4) Does James 2:5 say that God chooses those "rich in faith?"

The number of verses that must be nullified in order to believe Yeshua1 is large and obvious.
None are "rich in faith", as you are defining that term!
None get credit for anything, as its all based upon the Person and work of Jesus Christ!
 

Van

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None are "rich in faith", as you are defining that term!
None get credit for anything, as its all based upon the Person and work of Jesus Christ!
Still no answering the questions, still denying scripture, still attempting to derail discussion of Romans 3:25
 

Van

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How can lost sinners who are spiritually dead to god be at same time "rich in faith" towards God?
The Bible says so!!!!
James 2:5
Y1 denies God credits the faith of lost people as righteousness, Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24
It is God's will to credit our faith as righteousness, Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24.

Unanswered questions

1) Does God credit the faith of some people as righteousness, as taught in Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24?
2) Does God place some people whose faith has been credited as righteousness in Christ? 1 Peter 2:9-10
3) Does James 2:5 say that God chooses those "rich in faith?"

Under the wings of Christ we are sheltered from the wrath of God, even toward our misses while under His shelter. Christ became our means of salvation from the wrath of God toward our sins, past, present and future. Try taking your Calvinist glasses off and just reading Romans 3:24-25. But the shelter is accessible only through or on the basis of our faith being credited as righteousness by God.

being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;
whom God displayed publicly as the means of salvation in His blood accessible through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;​
 
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Yeshua1

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The Bible says so!!!!
James 2:5
Y1 denies God credits the faith of lost people as righteousness, Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24
It is God's will to credit our faith as righteousness, Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24.

Unanswered questions

1) Does God credit the faith of some people as righteousness, as taught in Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24?
2) Does God place some people whose faith has been credited as righteousness in Christ? 1 Peter 2:9-10
3) Does James 2:5 say that God chooses those "rich in faith?"

Under the wings of Christ we are sheltered from the wrath of God, even toward our misses while under His shelter. Christ became our means of salvation from the wrath of God toward our sins, past, present and future. Try taking your Calvinist glasses off and just reading Romans 3:24-25. But the shelter is accessible only through or on the basis of our faith being credited as righteousness by God.

being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;
whom God displayed publicly as the means of salvation in His blood accessible through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;​
Unless and Until the Lord Himself grants to us the gift of faith, none will be "rich in faith"
 

Van

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Unless and Until the Lord Himself grants to us the gift of faith, none will be "rich in faith"
Yet another failure to answer questions, yet another denial of scripture.

Unanswered questions

1) Does God credit the faith of some people as righteousness, as taught in Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24?
2) Does God place some people whose faith has been credited as righteousness in Christ? 1 Peter 2:9-10
3) Does James 2:5 say that God chooses those "rich in faith?"

Under the wings of Christ we are sheltered from the wrath of God, even toward our misses while under His shelter. Christ became our means of salvation from the wrath of God toward our sins, past, present and future. Try taking your Calvinist glasses off and just reading Romans 3:24-25. But the shelter is accessible only through or on the basis of our faith being credited as righteousness by God.

being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;
whom God displayed publicly as the means of salvation in His blood accessible through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;

Ask yourself folks, how can anyone be given faith if they are chosen on the basis of faith. Are you going to believe scripture (chosen on the basis of credited faith) or are you going to believe Calvinism's denial of scripture?
 

Yeshua1

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Yet another failure to answer questions, yet another denial of scripture.

Unanswered questions

1) Does God credit the faith of some people as righteousness, as taught in Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24?
2) Does God place some people whose faith has been credited as righteousness in Christ? 1 Peter 2:9-10
3) Does James 2:5 say that God chooses those "rich in faith?"

Under the wings of Christ we are sheltered from the wrath of God, even toward our misses while under His shelter. Christ became our means of salvation from the wrath of God toward our sins, past, present and future. Try taking your Calvinist glasses off and just reading Romans 3:24-25. But the shelter is accessible only through or on the basis of our faith being credited as righteousness by God.

being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;
whom God displayed publicly as the means of salvation in His blood accessible through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;

Ask yourself folks, how can anyone be given faith if they are chosen on the basis of faith. Are you going to believe scripture (chosen on the basis of credited faith) or are you going to believe Calvinism's denial of scripture?
How can God base his selection upon your own faith, when apart from Him giving that to you, you would have none?
 

Van

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How can God base his selection upon your own faith, when apart from Him giving that to you, you would have none?
Your question is a denial of scripture! How can God base His election for salvation on our faith which He credits as righteousness, unless the false doctrine of the gift of faith is bogus? Answer, the claim a person cannot put their faith, as worthless as it may be, in Christ is false doctrine. See James 2:5
 

Yeshua1

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Your question is a denial of scripture! How can God base His election for salvation on our faith which He credits as righteousness, unless the false doctrine of the gift of faith is bogus? Answer, the claim a person cannot put their faith, as worthless as it may be, in Christ is false doctrine. See James 2:5
Paul disagrees with you, see Ephesians 2:8-10
 

Van

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Paul disagrees with you, see Ephesians 2:8-10
The same bogus claim, as if Y1 could understand something other than man-made doctrine, is repeated to (1) change the subject, (2) deny James 2:5, (3) deny 2 Thessalonians 2:13, (4) deny Matthew 23:13 and deny Romans 3:25.
Your question is a denial of scripture! How can God base His election for salvation on our faith which He credits as righteousness, unless the false doctrine of the gift of faith is bogus? Answer, the claim a person cannot put their faith, as worthless as it may be, in Christ is false doctrine. See James 2:5

Unanswered questions

1) Does God credit the faith of some people as righteousness, as taught in Romans 4:4-5, Romans 4:23-24?
2) Does God place some people whose faith has been credited as righteousness in Christ? 1 Peter 2:9-10
3) Does James 2:5 say that God chooses those "rich in faith?"

How many times will Y1 answer these with change the subject questions?
 
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