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The rapture.

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Revmitchell

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37818 said:
The dead in Christ. All the dead in Christ. Not just some.
For example, Revelation 14:13, ". . . Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: . . ." And then also Revelation 20:4, ". . . the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; . . ."

Jesus taught regarding a believer in Him, ". . . I will raise him up at the last day. . . ." -- John 6:40.
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None of those verses say what you are trying to make it say.
 
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MB

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37818 said:
What do you mean?

There are only two resurrections of the dead, the saved before the rapture and the lost in the day of judgement.
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Not so those saved during the tribulation will also be resurrected and there will be some saved also there will be 144000 witnesses on earth preaching the gospel. They won't be here wasting there breath..There will be many Christians beheaded during the trib.
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37818

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MB said:
Not so those saved during the tribulation will also be resurrected and there will be some saved also there will be 144000 witnesses on earth preaching the gospel. They won't be here wasting there breath..There will be many Christians beheaded during the trib.
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Are they who die in the tribulation in Christ? 1 Thessaloinans 4:15.
 
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MB

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Revmitchell said:
Nope
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Rev_6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Rev_20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Christians will die during the tribulation, They will be beheaded.
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Revmitchell

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MB said:
Rev_6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Rev_20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Christians will die during the tribulation, They will be beheaded.
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Ok I dont deny that but neither the ot saints nor the trib saints were or will be in Christ. Only the church.
 
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MB

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Are they who die in the tribulation in Christ? 1 Thessaloinans 4:15.
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If the 144000 are not in Christ they would not be able to minister. The two witnesses mentioned in Revelation are indwelt with the Spirit or they would not have a witness. Then there are those saved during the tribulation and later beheaded.. The Bible does not actually say these will be resurrected but the Lord isn't going to send them to hell for believing. Those left alive on earth afterward will live and rule with Christ for 1000 years they will most likely be translated to a perfect body.The latter is my presumption.
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37818

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MB said:
If the 144000 are not in Christ they would not be able to minister. The two witnesses mentioned in Revelation are indwelt with the Spirit or they would not have a witness. Then there are those saved during the tribulation and later beheaded.. The Bible does not actually say these will be resurrected but the Lord isn't going to send them to hell for believing. Those left alive on earth afterward will live and rule with Christ for 1000 years they will most likely be translated to a perOnfect body.The latter is my presumption.
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Those who are resurrected as part of the "first resurrection" are in that text stated to be excempt from the second death, ". . . Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. . . ." -- Revelation 20:6. Also Revelation 2:11, ". . . He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. . . ." 1 John 5:4-5.
 
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MB

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Revmitchell said:
The bride of Christ does not include OT Saints or trib saints
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I disagree again with you. The old testament saints will precede the present church the resurrection of the dead shall rise first and just to prove this David wrote;
Psa 16:9 Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: my flesh also shall rest in hope.
Psa 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Psa 16:11 Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.

If David hoped for his flesh certainly when Christ set the captives free david heard the gospel and believed. He obviously was looking forward to it.
MB
 
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